Hello people,

Im new in the Warhammer 40 000 Universe. My wife has one set of this coloring pencil sets. Im not good at drawing but my idea was to fill out some pictures while my kids also draw. Do you know a good quality source for coloring book? What do you think about creating coloring pictures with ai?

  • Doctor_Spork@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    5·
    1 day ago

    Have a look through some of the early 40k rulebooks, there is tons of black and white line art in them as it was much easier and cheaper to print.

    I have done a bunch of colouring in with them when the wee one has told me to colour in space marines whilst they are working away in their colouring books.

    It’s fairly easy to find PDFs online, then you just need to crop the images and print them out.

    • Tangent5280@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      1 day ago

      Bruh what the fuck these look professionally done, how many years of experience do you have in the coloring book game?

      • Doctor_Spork@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        Thanks, it’s quite similar to painting miniatures. I tend to block in the lighter tones and then gradually add shading.

      • Doctor_Spork@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        Cheers, its great fun and a fantastic opportunity to really pore over some truly fantastic art. I highly recommend it, even if there isn’t a tiny person nagging you to do it.

  • Xanthobilly@lemmy.worldEnglish
    112·
    2 days ago

    This may be a minority opinion on here, but I think it’s a fantastic idea and good way to introduce people to lore for whatever subject, in this case Warhammer 40k. The problem I foresee is the AI may not be trained on the IP due to copyright, which would translate to poor image generation due to a blind spot for AI, but it’s worth a shot.

    • LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      62·
      2 days ago

      Thanks for using your brain and recognising that generative AI has its benefits, unlike a lot of people here on Lemmy. “hurr durr AI bad”. I mean, OP is using AI to have fun with his family and the commenters come in and shit on that? Please touch grass, Lemmy.

  • HeavyRaptor@lemmy.zipEnglish
    4·
    2 days ago

    Sounds great! Do you start with just a prompt or do you feed it a starting image and try to convert it to line art?

    • BanthexOPEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      When i dont know how it should look like i start claude to make suggestions. Then it happens then in this case claude created a template. Then i test this and give him feedback to the prompt. I compare the picture with the prompt and tell him what to improve. When im happy i tell him please is this as template for example for orcs etc. It starts streight to do the correct thing.

      • BanthexOPEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        Use claude to create prompts for flux ai had the best solutions: I guess for my bad painting skills its enough.

        • HeavyRaptor@lemmy.zipEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          These are really neat! Bit of weirdness with the hands still but I had to look for it.

          Its very cool you can generate these with ai. Its so difficult to find good colouring sheets, especially for niche subjects like 40K.

  • BanthexOPEnglish
    21·
    2 days ago

    Text ist partial german. Claude had good ideas to create prompts: ### Verbesserter Schwarz-Weiß Prompt:

    (monochrome line art:1.6), (coloring book style:1.5), (pure black and white:1.4), ((no colors:1.4)), warhammer 40k, ((thick black lines on white background:1.3)), ((high contrast black and white:1.3)), ((clear line drawing)), ((empty white spaces for coloring)), ((sacred machine workshop)), ((tech priest at work)), vector line art

Main Elements:
- ((black outline shapes:1.3))
- ((white fill areas:1.3))
- ((large machine shrine altar))
- ((simple cogwheel decorations))
- ((hanging incense censers))
- ((basic tool racks))
- ((tech priest with servo arms))
- ((floating servo skull))

Style Emphasis:
- ((pure black lines:1.4))
- ((pure white spaces:1.4))
- ((coloring book style outlines:1.4))
- ((clean empty spaces:1.3))
- ((stark black and white:1.3))
- ((no grayscale:1.3))

Negative prompt: (colors:1.8), (colored:1.8), (color image:1.8), (grayscale:1.6), gradients, shading, watermark, signature, text, blur, noise, grain, (sketchy lines:1.2), crosshatching, hatching, (small details:1.4), shadows, patterns, (complex designs:1.3), painting, realistic, photograph, (tones:1.3), texture, ((busy mechanisms)), ((complex wiring)), ((detailed circuitry)), ((anything but pure black and white:1.4))

Settings:
- Sampler: DPM++ 2M Karras
- Steps: 30
- CFG Scale: 12 [erhöht für stärkere Prompt-Befolgung]
- Size: 1024x768
- Clipskip: 2
- Denoising Strength: 0.7

    Alternative Einstellungen für noch stärkere Schwarz-Weiß-Ergebnisse:

    [Basis-Prompt wie oben, aber mit diesen Änderungen:]
- CFG Scale auf 15 erhöhen
- Steps auf 35 erhöhen
- Denoising Strength auf 0.8 erhöhen
- Füge hinzu: ((forced black and white:1.6)), ((absolutely no color:1.6))

    Zusätzliche Tipps für bessere Schwarz-Weiß-Ergebnisse:

    1. Wenn immer noch Farbe auftaucht:

      • Erhöhe die Gewichtung von “no colors” auf 1.6 oder höher
      • Füge “((forced monochrome:1.5))” hinzu
      • Verstärke den negative prompt für Farben noch mehr

    2. Wenn die Linien zu fein oder verwaschen sind:

      • Erhöhe “thick black lines” auf 1.5
      • Füge “((bold outlines:1.4))” hinzu
      • Reduziere die Denoising Strength auf 0.6

    3. Wenn zu viele graue Bereiche entstehen:

      • Füge “((binary black and white:1.4))” hinzu
      • Verstärke “no grayscale” im negative prompt
      • Erhöhe die Gewichtung von “pure black and white” auf 1.6
    • BanthexOPEnglish
      41·
      2 days ago

      I understand this but to collect ideas its not bad. I prefer pay for a good coloring book.

    • BanthexOPEnglish
      31·
      2 days ago

      Y thats correct. But i really struggled to find something to color out. Another try was a good aproach was using claude to create a prompt to feed stable diffusion. But overall official paintings would be much cooler. Also im scared with all the tools i need to pain models, getting the tools no space no time to play currently because of kids :D

    • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.worldEnglish
      33·
      2 days ago

      I wonder if this is how artists felt when digital painting was introduced, or when perspective was first beginning to be used, or when the canvas was invented…

      • Ben Hur Horse Race@lemm.eeEnglish
        32·
        1 day ago

        No, though, it’s nothing like that. Not even when 3D image rendering first came about.

        When an artist makes something, there is something called “intentionality”. This is what the artist is trying to convey with what they’re making, whether its sculpture or a carving or a 3D digital rendering- the artist has an intention to bring something in their mind to the viewer. When its not right, they can tweak it with more paint or lines or changing the path the 3D object renders through until it expresses what they’re trying to express.

        When you prompt an AI to make a picture based on a few words, it tries to make the next pixel in the image the “correct” one based on having been trained on millions of actual art works. It doesn’t know what it means or what it’s doing.

        This isn’t a new tool for artists, its taking all the art that’s been made to date by artists and putting it into a digital blender and shitting out something that kind-of looks like what an artist might make.

        If you like looking at that, then go and enjoy. There is a very good reason most people recoil at this stuff, though.

        • BanthexOPEnglish
          2·
          1 day ago

          I just hope for warhammer coloring book. Until i can buy them i have to print them by myself.