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    The real comedy is that they thought they’d get hired EVEN IF Elmo hired Americans. Vast majority of the magats barely even have a GED, let alone higher education

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    “No one wants to work” has always had an unspoken “for the paltry wages I am offering” component to it.

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        Not sure if this message is that CEOs are actually nice or nice guys are actually assholes. Both seem like cogdiss.

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              Don’t buy in to incel myths. There are plenty of men who are not assholes and also married to incredibly beautiful women. Even men who fit the mold of conventional attractiveness. Two notable examples:

              Sometimes being a non-asshole who makes people laugh works quite well.

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              No because they’re the creepy/scary assholes that think they’re nice and that if they do a single nice thing for a woman they get sex and then blow up like an insane person at any woman that doesn’t.

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                Oh I get it. Genuinely nice guys who are shy and have trouble meeting women aren’t a thing, because memes have to be true and non-superficial thinking is boring. Check.

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              Sure, there are women that go for assholes. Doesn’t have anything to do with looks, it just that a certain % of population is attracted to assholiness.

              Well, it’s their problem

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                I’m not a psychologist but there’s a theory I give some credence to, that since many men are too intimidated to approach extremely beautiful women, some of those women develop the feeling that there’s something wrong with them, leading them to get into relationships with assholes, and feeling like their choices are limited, allow themselves to be dominated and walked on. In my own dating career there were two extremely gorgeous, sweet, thoughtful women who, after I had patiently listened to them talk about how horrible their exes were decided to go back to them. One of these guys was the big redneck beat-up-guys-in-tavern fights type, the other was an actual former pimp. “He needs me more than you do” was the theme. And no I wasn’t in the friend zone, unless there’s a friend zone that has incredible benefits.

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      Do you know why they don’t like remote work? Eventually, you can remotely work for another country that pays more.

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        They don’t like remote work because it means they’re wasting money on office space. Rather than fix that problem they want to fill the unnecessary space and pretend there’s no problem.

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        Or even just remotely work for other employers in the same country. For example, Dallas employers don’t want compete with Silicon Valley employer salaries.

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          You know what I have always hated never actually understood? Its always people make different amounts of money in different parts of the country because it costs more to live there or something to that effect.

          Ever since I was small this has pissed me off more than it should… Like we really don’t have a better solution? As I got older I understood it more… But it just pisses me off. People shouldn’t make less in one part of the country just because everyone wants to live in a different part of it…

          Like it should be the opposite… Pay people the same everywhere give people the freedom to move and it will sort itself out…

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    “We have a shortage of engineers!”

    How do you know?

    “Because they won’t work for minimum wage!”

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      Same way I am currently suffering under an acute shortage of Porsche Taycans.

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    They forget that in a day or two. They literally have the mental capacity of a toddler.

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      Toddlers eventually learn though, and progress. Trumpy people a more like dogs: They can appear clever, but only up to a certain threshold. They may even perform useful tasks and tricks for their handlers. But ultimately they need someone to feed and supervise them otherwise they’ll eat something they shouldn’t and get sick. That same contented trot, and look of purpose you see on a dogs face while their owner walks them is what a republican gets when they’re getting walked by fascists. Both the dog and the republican think they’re part of a pack. Both the dog and the republican will be euthanized by their masters when they become too burdensome or they’ve outlived their usefulness.

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            It was originally created as a parody of Bitcoin. The Doge community used to be mostly people making fun of crypto “investors”.

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            It was just a meme at first mostly making fun of Bitcoin. The community made a lot of funny content and really didn’t take itself seriously. What it is now is a polar opposite of what it started as (including its creator)

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          I remember mining it way back in 2015. The community was super fun and lighthearted. Nobody really cared about actually buying stuff with it outside of memeing about it becoming a serious currency. Apparently the creator is full MAGA now though which is sad

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            I did a bit of mining, too. Not with the expectation of any great profit, just for fun and the experience with cryptocurrencies. And if it should take off, even better.

            The whole community reminded me a lot of the good old days of memes, not taking itself too seriously, being very helpful and positive. A stark contrast to all the crypto bros pushing other coins and looking down on Doge.

            Of course, then the dipshit-in-chief started promoting it …

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        Yes, and perfectly named because:

        Dogecoin is an inflationary cryptocurrency, which means that its supply increases over time. New coins are regularly added to the system through minting and mining. Dogecoin’s inflationary system is unique because it adds a consistent 5 billion new coins each year.

        It’s both inflationary and a rug puller’s delight.

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          I was in a band called Rug Puller’s Delight.

          The first three or four songs of every set were excellent covers of chart topping songs and the rest was a rambling and dissonant 90-minute jazz opera about navel lint.

          We never played the same venue twice for some reason… 🤔

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            Oh that sounds like a fun time!! Hopefully at good places where the patrons wouldn’t get too rowdy about it.

            I worked with a heavy (very heavy and growl-ey) metal band that was mis-scheduled with a bar, they had advertised their Reggae night that weekend instead. Many many angry drunk patrons. Did not use that venue again.

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    And they do so for two reasons. The first, and most important, is because foreign labor is cheaper than domestic by far. The second, and arguably the most important for you and I, is because our education system sucks and can’t pump out nearly as many well-educated folks in those particular fields at nearly the rate of countries with free, subsidized, or even just cheap education.

    So the problem is twofold. The first, rent is too expensive and Americans know it. The second, school is too expensive and Americans know it. Americans also know that we can’t actually fix those problems without something changing with how our political and economic systems operate, and that takes a revolution that nobody wants because they don’t want to fight and die for their right to be exploited by an employer in place of an immigrant.

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      Another lemmy user also pointed out the very different power dynamic between normal US workers and H1B workers (which I think is a more “saying the quiet part” than the cost to hire them being less). This is that a normal US worker losing their job (state dependent) could mean wrongful termination suits, compensation packages, and other worker benifits. H1B workers, termination means the runway to getting deported is now very short (because they are no longer working for their sponsor). Its extra leverage against the employee, meaning they can take advantage of them in ways that would make US workers take action against.

      The likes of musk and co want workers who they have more leverage over. They can ask them to do more things against regulations, ethics or their own well being, because refusal to do so means they might as well start packing.

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        Yeah, it’s less about education than it is control from what I have first hand experience in. Generally a us college grad is going to be a better employee than a H1B visa, although I’m sure there are exceptions. However, a college grad isn’t beholden to an employer for their right to exist in this country. So a college grad is more likely to change jobs or push back on the employer for things like vacation time, pay, etc.

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      I’m not really sure if education is the keystone issue, though. It’s a big part of the arch, for sure, but it’s well documented that economic stress and resource scarcity can take even smart people and make them drop-dead stupid. There are plenty of well educated people who have been so filled with hate and fear that they’ll believe anything and hate anyone so long as it makes them feel like they’ll have some financial security.

      Does the education of other countries include “critical thinking”, “propoganda identification”, or a mandatory “basic economics for the regular person so they can understand the concept of indirect benefit”? Do their existing courses even touch on those topics indirectly in ways that someone “who needs a little help” can learn enough to keep themselves safe? Not really, and that’s why we’re even seeing Germany basically make the same fucking mistake as before and it’s not even been 100 years yet.

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    A pessimistic view of education is that it’s a subsidy for business. We use our taxes to train core skills in the workforce so it’s cheaper to hire and use us.

    They don’t offer education as enrichment, and not even education as a competitive measure… like they aren’t grounded in reality and even their fantasies suck.

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      I heard that from Europeans talking about US schools. Anything in school that doesn’t directly help you in your job is a waste of time and money.

      MitochondriaIsThePowerHouseOfTheCell.jpg

      While in Europe education is seen as something edifying that kind of raises you to another level.

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        I honestly think a big part of why we’re more susceptible to right-wing idiocy is that we don’t teach basic philosophy in high school. I’m talking basic things like how an argument is structured, deductive vs inductive logic, logical fallacies, theory of knowledge, etc.

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          Some schools do, but seemingly not most.

          Maybe a nice TikTok series would help. Here’s 30 seconds on how to spot a fraudster: they are trying to sell you something very very complex in 30 seconds (or 280 characters).

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          Absolutely. Basic critical thinking should be fundamental.

          Some scientific skepticism would be perfect.

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        Speaking from the UK: Yes and no.

        After 14 years of Tory scum in charge, arts education in schools is on its arse, because it doesn’t provide workers to grind into a paste once they’ve left education. Indeed, most schools are struggling like fuck because funding kept getting cut while more was being required of them.

        As a whole education here is seen as a civic duty to ensure our kids are well-equipped for life in the workforce, but the scope of the education isn’t limited to just what they’d need for that, even if the central focus is.

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      Yes the idea that public education is free training businesses should pay for is a very transactional Trumpian outlook, and the official mentality of the Trumpublican Party.

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    Hardly. MAGAts learning the truth a couple months ago so what’s about to transpire over the next four years was something COMPLETELY different would’ve been the greatest gift.