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Two of the data links are marine cables operated by Elisa, running between Helsinki and Tallinn, Estonia. One also running from Helsinki to Tallinn is owned by the Chinese-owned CITIC Telecom.
The fourth cable is Cinia’s C-Lion1 submarine cable, which connects Helsinki to Germany. Finnish state-owned company Cinia has pinpointed the damage to its cable southeast of the Porkkala peninsula, just west of Helsinki on the Gulf of Finland.
According to the Finnish Transport and Communications Agency (Traficom), Elisa’s cables have been severed, and two other cables have sustained damage.
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We all know it was Russia. They’ll never admit it and spout some bollocks about western conspiracy theories. Just seize all their ships and property. Anyone trading with them gets 30 years in the slammer.
Patton was right, we should have dealt with the problem in 1945.
Problem here is that these ships aren’t Russia’s vehicles. Eagle S, the one that most likely caused these damages, is registered to Cook Islands, and is owned by Dubain company. And then there is international maritime law, that among other things doesn’t allow blockades.
If it wasn’t for that pesky maritime law :-)
Ridiculous accusation. Dementia over a war on Russia is easily amplified by such an accusation, and so obvious warmongering from “friends” to both sabotage and claim the absurdity of russia.
Just as nodstream sabotage, it is USA and colonies who will provide alternate infrastructure for the sabotage.
Without a motive, you need extreme gullibility to accept the propaganda of usual suspects, and you diminish Europe significantly in humanizing such liars stealing from and subjugating you by fear and demonism.
Denmark and Sweden should just close off lake NATO to all non nato shipping. And any non nato ship that is allowed will have coastguard personell onboard during their stay in lake NATO. The cost of the operation is levied as toll on the ships.
Or Military takes all ships causing damage as compensation.
How many not-attack attacks are required until retaliation is on the table?
Best retaliation is more arms to Ukraine - a war that is already in progress and so you don’t risk starting a new war.
Ahh yes. Escalate with a nuclear armed superpower. Real genius move.
They say once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, and three times is enemy action. Seems we’re past that now.
Which is why you should suspect the same “friends” as the evil doers. Official nordstream whitewashing is ukraine did it.
The dementia of accusing Russia needs a motive. So does rewarding Ukraine for another fundraising operation.
The west destroyed the Nord stream pipeline, and caused one of the worst climate disasters in history with it. We can’t afford more infrastructure targeting by the western nations. Too much collateral damage.
it’s them damn sharks again ain’t it?
CHOMP
KGB is recruiting sharks now? 🤔
KGB are buisness sharks now
Also a power cable Estlink 2 was cut. Finnish authorities have seized a vessel called Eagle S for likely having caused the damages. Finland’s border guards were close by when it happened, and they saw that Eagle S’s anchor was missing.
EDIT: YLE’s news about it in English: https://yle.fi/a/74-20133516
Should have paid the bill then.
Yes, yes, then they observe repairs, duration ect, and come up with a plan for grow to delay further, so they can then use the information in the coming war.
Here’s an idea: execute the crew, seize the vessels, use loyal Chinese speakers for a mock return journey, monitor the radio (eg. do counter intelligence).
Keep those executions up, see how often it happens after you execute a few boats worth of officers. If that doesn’t work, blockade the Strait of Malaca, the path China imports their oil by.
Oh, you can’t do any of this because you outsourced all your manufacturing to China in the 1990s push for privatization screwing the local working class over?
Capitalism is dangerous for national security.
execute the crew
Ahh, muricans.
If you’re fine with Luigi Mangione, you should be fine with executing foriegn spies who want worse for your Nation than even health insurance CEOs.
Cable cutting ship full of spy equipment
It comes down to the fundamental question; do you think a nation has to use deadly force to protect itself. If you say no - (including what Luigi Mangione did), then you’re the reason billionaires rule with impunity, because there’s no consequences to defrauding the nation, to spying on it, to plotting it’s demise, or attacking it’s infrastructure.
People need to understand, if you want to protect democracy and freedom, you have to be willing to kill for it. That’s all that politics comes down to, where that force is directed. You say: No, kill no one, then you will not have a nation as soon as an invading army knows this weakness.
“No” means you do not want to have a nation. That’s a pipedream.
execute the crew
Yeaah, I don’t know about the rest of you but this is not the world I want to live in.
If you’re fine with Luigi Mangione, you should be fine with executing foriegn spies who want worse for your Nation than even health insurance CEOs.
Cable cutting ship full of spy equipment
It comes down to the fundamental question; do you think a nation has to use deadly force to protect itself. If you say no - (including what Luigi Mangione did), then you’re the reason billionaires rule with impunity, because there’s no consequences to defrauding the nation, to spying on it, to plotting it’s demise, or attacking it’s infrastructure.
People need to understand, if you want to protect democracy and freedom, you have to be willing to kill for it. That’s all that politics comes down to, where that force is directed. You say: No, kill no one, then you will not have a nation as soon as an invading army knows this weakness.
“No” means you do not want to have a nation. That’s a pipedream.
Summarily executing people over circumstantial evidence is also bad for national security. Glad you aren’t involved in international geopolitics.
If you’re fine with Luigi Mangione, you should be fine with executing foriegn spies who want worse for your Nation than even health insurance CEOs.
Cable cutting ship full of spy equipment
It comes down to the fundamental question; do you think a nation has to use deadly force to protect itself. If you say no - (including what Luigi Mangione did), then you’re the reason billionaires rule with impunity, because there’s no consequences to defrauding the nation, to spying on it, to plotting it’s demise, or attacking it’s infrastructure.
People need to understand, if you want to protect democracy and freedom, you have to be willing to kill for it. That’s all that politics comes down to, where that force is directed. You say: No, kill no one, then you will not have a nation as soon as an invading army knows this weakness.
“No” means you do not want to have a nation. That’s a pipedream.
Plot twist, it’s donald trump’s lemmy account.
Way too well written and coherent
FACTS!
Not a single sentence ALL CAPS FOR EMPHASIS? Can’t be.
It’s really not circumstantial. They back and forth over specific areas the cables are, and do this over multiple cables until they break.
They go to those areas specifically to do this.
