Social media app Telegram is profitable for the first time after paying down “a meaningful share” of some $2 billion in debt, Chief Executive Officer Pavel Durov said in a post on X Monday.
Yes but that doesn’t mean they’re not important in ensuring there isn’t a messaging monopoly.
Obviously in an ideal world we’d have multiple interconnected secure apps with some cross-platform interoperability, but until then I’ll settle for one government/corporation not having all of everyone’s private conversations.
If Telegram is backdoored, not for Russia. While the founder and owner is Russian, him and the company left Russia in 2014 when they didn’t want to comply with their regime (I think. Don’t remember the details). The company is based in Dubai since 2017.
Why is Telegram the only messenger that is not banned in Russia? Signal, Matrix, SimpleX, WhatsApp, Viber, everything, are all banned, but not Telegram
Where did you get the info? Signal and Viber are indeed blocked but usable via VPNs that a lot of people have anyway. Whatsapp was never even attempted to be blocked and remains absolutely dominant together with Telegram. Matrix is a protocol rather than a platform so can’t really be blocked, but even matrix.org was never blocked either. Simplex was blocked a while ago, but again, it is a protocol, so they could only block the central servers and apparently port 5223 too. But both were quietly unblocked a short time after, no idea why.
Whatsapp only the backups (although I think they stopped?) and Metadata (with whom you chat, when you chat, but not the exact words you chat) are backdoored.
Only for one-on-one chat. From what I’ve seen, most of the chats are group chats or rooms or whatever they’re called. No encryption at all, all your messages for any interested party with enough money to analyse.
Frankly, there doesn’t need to be a backdoor, the architecture and security of the app are horrible.
There’s simply no reason to not have e2e. Except if you want the data.
Isn’t WhatsApp 100% backdoored for the US and Telegram for Russia? I thought Signal was the only reliable app?
Yes but that doesn’t mean they’re not important in ensuring there isn’t a messaging monopoly.
Obviously in an ideal world we’d have multiple interconnected secure apps with some cross-platform interoperability, but until then I’ll settle for one government/corporation not having all of everyone’s private conversations.
If Telegram is backdoored, not for Russia. While the founder and owner is Russian, him and the company left Russia in 2014 when they didn’t want to comply with their regime (I think. Don’t remember the details). The company is based in Dubai since 2017.
The people with the most to lose think it is: https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/ukraine-bans-official-use-telegram-app-over-fears-russian-spying-2024-09-20/
Well, to be fair, better safe than sorry.
Why is Telegram the only messenger that is not banned in Russia? Signal, Matrix, SimpleX, WhatsApp, Viber, everything, are all banned, but not Telegram
Where did you get the info? Signal and Viber are indeed blocked but usable via VPNs that a lot of people have anyway. Whatsapp was never even attempted to be blocked and remains absolutely dominant together with Telegram. Matrix is a protocol rather than a platform so can’t really be blocked, but even matrix.org was never blocked either. Simplex was blocked a while ago, but again, it is a protocol, so they could only block the central servers and apparently port 5223 too. But both were quietly unblocked a short time after, no idea why.
Telegram is 100% backdoored
Whatsapp only the backups (although I think they stopped?) and Metadata (with whom you chat, when you chat, but not the exact words you chat) are backdoored.
Signal is the only major app tht’s not backdoores
What makes you so sure?
It does. You need to enable it per chat but that’s far from difficult.
Everyone wants messenger data. Doesn’t make it “100% backdoored”.
Only for one-on-one chat. From what I’ve seen, most of the chats are group chats or rooms or whatever they’re called. No encryption at all, all your messages for any interested party with enough money to analyse.
Frankly, there doesn’t need to be a backdoor, the architecture and security of the app are horrible.
There’s simply no reason to not have e2e. Except if you want the data.
Yes, e2e is currently only for one-on-one chats available, that’s true.
The rest is on their servers. But they’re not making a secret out of that. They are pretty transparent about it as far as I can tell.
Yupp, that’s not a “backdoor” in that sense. Is there one for the encrypted chats?
I can think of a bunch of harmless reasons, why it can be advantageous to use unencrypted chats.