• daw
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    14 hours ago

    I reeeeeaallly hate how almost all people see fast travel at plane speeds as a commodity and a basic need. It just isn’t true, every flight is borrowed from our future, most of the other citizens of this world don’t have access, and still people are like “8 h instead of 4 h for 1000km just isn’t practicalyeah! Because it’s 1000km why does everybody think their entitled to traveling by jet, when this has been a luxury not present in history, not present for most people that live right now and will not be present in the climate crisis that is our current future… 🫠🫠🫠

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      48 minutes ago

      8h train journey is really nbd. Especially if it’s a direct connection. On the ICE you will also get better food than on the flight, you get to stretch your legs and can bring way more luggage without paying an arm and a leg.

      I’d pick an 8h train over a 4h flight for Berlin -> Paris in a heartbeat. Even if the flight would end up being slightly quicker including travel to and time spent at the airports (which it might not be). With the train you can at least sit down with your laptop or whatever and just chill the whole time. When you’re flying you’re spending a lot of time waiting in queues, walking around the airport and changing modes of transport.

    • Caveman@lemmy.world
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      2 hours ago

      8h city center to city center is pretty comparable to 4h flight 2h wait beforehand, 30m bag collection, and 2x45m to and from the airport

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        1 hour ago

        Also 8h is sleeper train territory. Don’t consider it a vehicle, consider it a hotel teleporting you from city to city.

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      11 hours ago

      Once a luxury is present for long enough, it becomes normal. You cannot be angry at masses of people for wanting to enjoy their life.

      Your points are not invalid, it’s not sustainable and likely won’t be for some time, but many things are a luxury only available to a few in the present (e.g. MRI scans, 50" TVs, car capable of going +100km/h, 3+ electronic devices per person). No one is ready to give up their luxuries, especially when others still have more.

      • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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        1 hour ago

        e.g. MRI scans, 50" TVs, car capable of going +100km/h, 3+ electronic devices per person

        One of them is not like the others.

        (Accessibility to MRI scans should not be luxury (as it is true for accessibility to any given medical procedure).)