• Pantherina@feddit.de
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      10 months ago

      Is vivaldi FOSS now? In tests by mike kuketz it had nonexistent Fingerprint protection and bad privacy settings OOTB

      • idiomaddict@feddit.de
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        10 months ago

        That’s the lemmy echo chamber. Poll a hundred people on how to get a program onto a computer without a browser and I’d be surprised if five people answered something other than a disk or that it’s impossible

    • macniel@feddit.de
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      10 months ago

      Mhm this reminds me of the time when we had in the EU a choice dialog after first boot where you had a selection of browsers to install from.

    • quantenzitrone@feddit.de
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      10 months ago

      i think it is very beneficial for the average user to have one of each common software category preinstalled

      as long as you can uninstall everything

    • Pantherina@feddit.de
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      10 months ago

      If a Distro preinstalls the Torbrowser it is based. Or maybe a Firefox that is actually debloated and hardened, not just having fancy bookmarks and a custom start page (looking at you Fedora)

      • 30p87@feddit.de
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        10 months ago

        It’s about Edge not being removable, extremely pushing about using it instead of other browsers, while downloading other browsers and while normally using Windows, and the setup process involved to get to the point of downloading another browser.

    • 30p87@feddit.de
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      10 months ago

      To use Edge, even to just download anything, you need to go through a lengthy setup process, are nudged towards logging into a Microsoft account, and need to sign away all your rights.
      On Firefox, the setup is literally: Dark or light? Dark, K, glhf.

      Edge will then tell you, multiple times, that it’s better than chrome etc. and you shouldn’t download another browser. Then it will even ask you why you chose another browser.
      Firefox will not ask anything.

      And finally, uninstalling Edge on Windows is impossible outside the EU, and I doubt it’s already possible in the EU.
      You can uninstall Firefox on any OS, preinstalled or not, as many times as you want.

      And of course, on Linux, you would not even open the browser to change it. There’s the package manager or app store for that. On Windows … you’re pretty much forced to do it, except if you curl the installer manually, which is very tedious to do.

  • Pantherina@feddit.de
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    10 months ago

    This meme makes no sense. Why would Windows want that?

    Surprisingly I dont get weird popups when installing Firefox

    • vinhill@feddit.de
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      10 months ago

      I think lots of people also don’t know how easy it is to migrate all user data between browsers. Also, the added work of changing your phone app is probably too much for the average, comfortable consumer.

    • nixcamic@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      If you’re gonna go though the trouble of installing a browser, why switch Microsoft for Google? They’re both evil and Edge actually performs significantly better than Chrome somehow (they’re basically the same I don’t get it).

      Install freaking Firefox.

      • Kleinbonum@feddit.de
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        10 months ago

        Conversely, if they’re both evil, why use Microsoft over Google?

        People have their browser set up the way they want it, and downloading and installing Chrome to have everything sync back and work exactly the way they want things to work takes all of two minutes.

        Why use Edge and spend time and effort to import bookmarks, import passwords, change settings, install extensions etc. only to have the exact same end result that downloading Chrome would have given them in the first place, but with the added annoyance of Microsoft leveraging Edge to nudge them into the Microsoft ecosystem?

        • Kleinbonum@feddit.de
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          10 months ago

          Point being that installing Chrome isn’t the “trouble” you’re making it out to be, when switching to Edge comes with zero advantage.

          But you weren’t asking an open ended question anyway, right?

      • callyral [he/they]@pawb.socialEnglish
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        10 months ago

        If you’re gonna go though the trouble of installing a browser, why switch Microsoft for Google?

        Exactly I don’t get it, the only explanation I can think of is that they have Chrome on their phone and want to sync it or something?

        • Obi@sopuli.xyz
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          10 months ago

          It’s just momentum. Chrome was THE advised browser for a long time and people are just used to it.

  • pedz@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    But then you use Debian and what’s preinstalled is Firefox ESR, so you have to install Firefox anyway.

      • Pantherina@feddit.de
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        10 months ago

        Not all security issues get CVEs. Thats only the security parts. Its old as balls, and Firefox never had any breaking bugs for me, thats the “old as balls” part