• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    24 hours ago

    Putin’s clearly supposed to look like a monkey in the picture (also: “Mein Banan”). I didn’t even see the connection to Hitler.

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      19 hours ago

      How do you get from making him look like a monkey to racism?

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        18 hours ago

        Do you have any idea about the history of “caricature strangers to look like monkeys”?

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            18 hours ago

            Caricaturing people of other ethnicities look like monkeys to degrade them has a looong, racist tradition. About 100 years ago, russians were considered a backwards, horde of uncivilized asian/mongols in Europe.

            I simply see these kinds of caricatures as racist. And I’m not alone in this.

            It’s about as cool as depicting him as a kraken (antisemitic), or as a drag queen, to “own” him.

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                25 minutes ago

                So caricaturing Obama as a monkey wouldn’t be racist, then?

                He would even “deserve” it, being a war criminal and all that.

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              About 100 years ago, russians were considered a backwards, horde of uncivilized asian/mongols in Europe.

              About 100 years ago Europe had just faced Russian raping and pillaging in a world War, and they’d soon face it again in the next war. For all intents and purposes, they were a backward horde of uncivilized fucks.

              But hey, they are sure proving they’re different nowadays, with them raping their way through another war.

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                Yeah, it was the savage barbarism of the backwater russian nature that made the rusrian soldiers pillageeand rape our white women. No other nation’s army did anything of the sort. Let’s remember that the russians where the canonical bad guys of world war 1, 2 and 3. /s

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                15 hours ago

                Apparently, I’m a russian asset for pointing this out.

                Because racism is good if it targets the right people. /s

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      23 hours ago

      Hitler is famous for his book “Mein Kampf” which translates to “My fight” the book cover is literally almost the same.

      Still don’t get how making fun of a warmonger using a history person makes me racist tho.

      Is it that you look highly at Putin and have embraced his cult of personality?

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        Thanks, I know of Hitler and Mein Kampf. I even know German, wouldn’t you believe it. 🙄 (Also: the better translation would be “My Struggle”)

        Can’t you see that the image looks a lot like racist caricatures of when humans (usually plack people) where drawn like/compared to apes.

        Is it that you look highly at Putin and have embraced his cult of personality?

        WTF? Taking umbridge with racist imagery means that I’m a Putin simp now? Do you *reallyy think that racist caricatures are OK when it’s directed at the “right” people? O.o

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          21 hours ago

          I guess I can see the connection you’re trying to make. But I can hardly still connect it to mindless rascism since there are quite a few reasons why monkey comparison is used.

          There is a cult of personality around Putin, or any other dictator. Where making fun of him, lands you in jail. Public images like that are a fight against it. (Like Jinping drawn like winnie pooh).

          Also I’m pretty sure that you’re the one being racist. Since you saw the monkey and instantly came to the conclusion of racism (with the example of black people). For shame.

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            20 hours ago

            But I can hardly still connect it to mindless rascism since there are quite a few reasons why monkey comparison is used.

            Are the reasons because russians are sub-humans, maybe? /s

            There is a cult of personality around Putin, or any other dictator. Where making fun of him, lands you in jail. Public images like that are a fight against it. (Like Jinping drawn like winnie pooh).

            Again: how does this excuse racism? You’re constantly dodging the issue.

            Also I’m pretty sure that you’re the one being racist.

            Ah, the good old alt-right defense of “I can’t be racist if I didn’t think about it. In fact, if you think aboutit, you’re the racist”-defense. 🙄

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              20 hours ago

              I guess you see Putin and think all Russians. Sad. You should really try to meet some. Quite interesting people with their own culture and traditions.

              Also I’m pretty sure quite a lot of them right now would feel quite attacked by you grouping them with the Ape that decides it’s a good idea to casually launch ICBMs and risk preemptive response.

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                  19 hours ago

                  I’m sorry for the challenges you face in your daily life. I really thought you were smart enough to know the difference between Putin and general Russian populus. I wish you best of luck in your endeavours, friend.