• the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    A fetus/baby is a human being. It is an organism composed of human cells, and the mother’s body is made to accommodate it. The only difference between an adult and a fetus is the stage of development. If a fetus is a “blob,” so are born babies, children, and adults.

    A parasite is a different species which the host’s body isn’t meant to accommodate. Calling a fetus a parasite is insane.

    Oh, and tumors aren’t organisms, so fetuses don’t fit that definition either.

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      1 hour ago

      If a fetus is a “blob,” so are born babies, children, and adults.

      No, those are fully formed individuals that can survive on their own if separated from the mother. The fetus is surviving off it’s mother’s body. Stealing her nutrients. The only thing separating it from fitting the definition of a parasite is the “different species” caveat.

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        What’s the difference between a “blob” and a “fully formed individual” and why is killing one acceptable while killing the other isn’t? You also missed the “mother’s body is made to accommodate the child” thing, too. That’s what the uterus is for. If there was no such thing as a uterus and the fetus was a different species, then it would be a parasite. As it is though, a fetus is no more a parasite than someone living at home with their parents.

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          3 hours ago

          Except for the laws that punish people who seek medical aid. As exemplified by the post. Also flase equivalency.

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            Literally nobody has been prosecuted for doing an abortion in a ban state since Dobbs. The threat you’re asserting doesn’t exist.

            It’s not a false equivalence because, in both cases, the parent is killing their child.

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              It doesn’t exist except it’s on the law books. OK.

              It is an entirely false equivalence. Because a fetus isn’t a child until further in development.

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                The law on the books is that a doctor can legally perform emergency abortions. Nobody has been prosecuted on the claim that the abortion wasn’t an emergency, or even for performing an abortion at all.

                The fetus carries its parents’ DNA, is created from their intercourse, and is descended directly from them. They may not have reached adolescence, but in terms of genetics and biology, it is still their child.

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                  Great who determines it’s an “emergency”? With how poorly worded gop policies are it’s too much of a grey area to risk for many people when the punishment is jailtime or worse. A fetus is a fetus is it’s not an adolescent, more false equivalency. A fetus is a fetus, not a child.

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                    The doctor can determine what an emergency is. Nobody has been prosecuted for performing an abortion since Dobbs. The “grey area” you’re arguing for, if it exists, is irrelevant.

                    A fetus is the offspring of two parents. You’re confusing the definition of child as in “adolescent animal” and the definition I’m using, namely “offspring”. A fetus is an organism composed of human cells, therefore it is a human being, therefore killing it without a critical reason is murder.