• zante@slrpnk.net
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      1 month ago

      Are you saying it’s an elaborate fake ?

      There a lots of photos of the documents they referenced.

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        No, I’m saying the documents do not sustain the claims. The documents go into supporting Ukraine, e.g. to help them defeat Russian fleet and gain maritime supremacy. However, there’s no indication on what I’ve seen there akin to the claims that they want to “drag out the war as long as possible” and “prepare their own people to live in poverty” (not exact quotes because I’m on phone and I’m afraid to lose this text). These are the authors one-sided and tendentious interpretations of continued support, which by the structure of the article and the way he presents it he makes seem as if they were part of the documents. But they aren’t.

        UK supports Ukraine. That’s a known fact. It’d be insane to believe there’d be no briefings on strategy (whether these came into effect isn’t clear either).

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                Russia and Ukraine may have agreed on a tentative deal to end the war in April, according to a recent piece in Foreign Affairs.

                “Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement,” wrote Fiona Hill and Angela Stent. “Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.”

                Calls it peace plan, then I’m the next paragraph refers to it as “negotiated interim settlement” where Russia gets to hold all of Crimea and the Donbas… and the word peace doesn’t even appear in the linked article. Nor any reference to an end of the conflict, and even the word “deal” only about the grain export.

                The “Zelensky is a badass” narrative in 2024 is hilarious.

                And yet, you’re the only one calling it that. I was just stating that was offered and that Ukraine’s government declined, asking if you’re saying that this wasn’t their own decision - which you dodged answering.