WASHINGTON, Nov 17 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden’s administration will allow Ukraine to use U.S.-provided weapons to strike deep into Russian territory, three sources familiar with the matter said, in a significant change to Washington’s policy in the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

Ukraine plans to conduct its first long-range attacks in the coming days, the sources said, without revealing details due to operational security concerns.

The move by the United States two months before President-elect Donald Trump takes office on Jan. 20 follows months of requests by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to allow Ukraine’s military to use U.S. weapons to hit Russian military targets far from its border.

The change follows Russia’s deployment of North Korean ground troops to supplement its own forces, a development that has caused alarm in Washington and Kyiv.

The first deep strikes are likely to be carried out using ATACMS rockets, which have a range of up to 190 miles (306 km), according to the sources.

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    surely you have a lot of irrefutable sources for your claims.
    It’s crazy how many people here are touting the widely disclaimed coup or genocide.
    Like surely there’s a lot of publicly accessible, independent data on all of that, right?
    Surely there’s a very good reason why Crimea was invaded in a cloak-and-dagger operation by unmarked soldiers while russia officially demented any accusations it’s their troops? Surely.

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        White House narrative

        Muricacentric much?

        But first I want a source for your claim that Russia is indiscriminately bombing civilians.

        Strawman, letsgooo.
        Besides your random made up arguments, here are some numbers on civilian casualties:
        https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293492/ukraine-war-casualties/

        There’s of course a bunch of civilian massacres still under active investigation, plus a lot of varying numbers between UA officials and independent reports. Mostly it’s just the precise numbers that are unclear, not the act itself. See:

        https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/f/a/515868.pdf https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/06/ukraine-deadly-mariupol-theatre-strike-a-clear-war-crime-by-russian-forces-new-investigation/ https://www.npr.org/2022/06/27/1107854331/russian-missile-strike-shopping-mall-kremenchuk

        But of course these are all western propaganda, please enlighten me with your credible sources full of irrefutable proof that i’m entirely consumed by fake news.

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            Righty, we’re playign a game of semantics not content. Got it.
            I wrote

            totally reasonable in his target choices?

            Any further specific claims came from you.

            Further:

            There’s of course a bunch of civilian massacres still under active investigation, plus a lot of varying numbers between UA officials and independent reports.

            me acknowledging the unclear nature of war-time reports.
            Again, the rest is you projecting a slightly different argument onto my words to give yourself an easier time filing me away as a “propaganda victim” or whatever.

            First of all this statistic is of the total reports of civilian deaths on both sides in the war, this already shows you are terrible at reading

            If I were to argue like you do, I’d now go off about how you claim ALL civilian casualties died at Ukrainian hands.
            I don’t do that though, instead I’d ask you to provide the detailed breakdown you seem to have you hands on.

            You seem to also have missed this:

            The figures exclude Crimea and Sevastopol due to the lack of corroborating information.

            Meaning, your alleged genocide is not in this dataset.

            And lastly, you’re still not providing literally anything of substance yourself. You only tactic is discredit any potential source and ignore the ones you don’t wanna engage with in advance so you can later claim “no that one doesn’t count, I already said it’s propaganda” while the only thing you’re currently leaning on is an opinion piece from a heavily biased borderline conspiracy rag.

            Either you engage with what I’m writing and work with the people you’re talking to, or you keep arguing in bad faith. If you pick the latter, feel free, go off king, i’m not interested.

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                You didnt present anything buddy. I read your link. It was inconsequential. Do you have anything that actually refute any of the facts? Lets just go for the civillian deaths, ignoring all and any speculative accusations. Just the hard numbers. Who killed them. How many?

                The argument wasnt about which source you like. You just pivoted there for you have nothing relevant to add. Your first move was to deflect from the topic at hand to an argument about sources. Okay there are dozens of them, which ones do you allow for this discussion?

                Okay, cool, news sites have conflicts of interest. Thats why you vet the ones that are mostly neutral DESPITE ties. Same applies to yours, but thats nothing you can even fucking fathom.

                Stop deflecting. Stay on topic for just one comment.

                Drop your sources on the civillian deaths or shut up and move on.

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                    30 days ago

                    Well I mean we did start off by talking about your claim the Russians are indiscriminately bombing civilians though!

                    That’s still false :)