The woman at the center of the DOJ's probe of Matt Gaetz testified to the House Ethics Committee that he had sex with her when she was 17 years old, sources say.
So, based on your phrasing “banging a17yo,” I’m gonna guess that your issue is with the label pedophile and not the ACT OF RAPING CHILDREN. Glad that’s been established.
“Pedophilia” is a psychological term, not a legal one. Perhaps you are looking for “rape.”
Treating “pedophile” as a synonym for “child molester” is like treating “schizophrenic” as a synonym for “axe murder”. Using psychological conditions as slurs and everyday metaphors is harmful.
(This is coming from an Aussie where 16 is the AoC in all states. We have exceptions that make it 18 if the other party has a duty of care tho)
Edit: I should add that it’s still fucking creepy and weird when an older man does this. Just, not pedophilia, and not by default (statutory) rape in most places. Unlike what the people in this thread seem to think.
It’s almost like we shouldn’t water down such serious terms by lumping everything in with it.
Edit: I should add that it’s still fucking creepy and weird when an older man does this. Just, not pedophilia, and not by default (statutory) rape in most places. Unlike what the people in this thread seem to think.
I mean you can also say someone is a murderer of they eat cabbage, but you’d be wrong.
Calling everyone you dislike a pedo is as lame as calling everyone you dislike a commie or Hitler.
Seriously… having sex with or raping a 17 year old doesn’t make you a pedophile. It makes you a statutory rapist. That’s bad enough without having to make dumb shit up as an insult.
I’m surprised and disappointed so many on lemmy are falling into that sort of weak bullshit but… here we are
I’ve made the argument countless times. If you want to call raping a 17 year old pedophilia, that’s up to you. I’m not going to call a swimming pool a lake.
Indeed they do. And since you seem to be under the impression that those definitions do not change, please define ‘silly’ for me as it was defined when it began to be used in late Middle English.
I feel you’re being silly regardless of the early or current definition of the word, but I’m betting you also don’t use the word that way.
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Would you prefer the terminology “raped a minor?” That help you sleep at night?
17 is age of consent in quite a few states. Mostly republican states, obvs.
In Florida the age of consent is 16 … if the other person is under 24.
Yes.
Pedos don’t like being called pedos. More groundbreaking news at 11. Back to you, Tom.
Sure, that works
So, based on your phrasing “banging a17yo,” I’m gonna guess that your issue is with the label pedophile and not the ACT OF RAPING CHILDREN. Glad that’s been established.
You are so triggered.
And you’re mercifully free of the ravages of intelligence. Must be nice, what, with all that bliss and all. 😘
Again, words have meanings. I’m sorry that makes you emotional and require all caps to try and make your point.
Banging a 17 year old in a state where the age of consent is 18 makes the argument irrelevant.
It absolutely doesn’t
Legally you’re wrong. Morally too but legally also.
“Pedophilia” is a psychological term, not a legal one. Perhaps you are looking for “rape.”
Treating “pedophile” as a synonym for “child molester” is like treating “schizophrenic” as a synonym for “axe murder”. Using psychological conditions as slurs and everyday metaphors is harmful.
Explain how I’m wrong? Or did you think banging a 17 year old is literally pedophilia?
It’s annoying when right wing weirdos label everyone that disagrees with them a pedo, it’s not any less annoying when it’s done by everyone else.
Do you often find yourself being labeled as a pedo? Might want to rethink some things then.
I was often finding myself beyond labeled as a pedo. On twitter. By maga morons that label everyone they disagree with a pedo.
I did rethink some things and went to lemmy. I guess not much changes.
Yes. It’s everyone else that’s wrong, it couldn’t possibly be you.
No one said everyone. I said maga weirdos that label everyone they disagree with as a pedo.
Welcome to that club, I guess.
Arguing that wanting to have sex with a minor is anything but is a take, and definitely has me glad Boost supports user tagging.
Not even a crime in most states: https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/age-of-consent-in-each-us-state-1701408847-1
(This is coming from an Aussie where 16 is the AoC in all states. We have exceptions that make it 18 if the other party has a duty of care tho)
Edit: I should add that it’s still fucking creepy and weird when an older man does this. Just, not pedophilia, and not by default (statutory) rape in most places. Unlike what the people in this thread seem to think.
It’s almost like we shouldn’t water down such serious terms by lumping everything in with it.
You fucking think its not fucking serious that a 40+ year old paid a 17 yo for sex?
There’s not an answer I can give that is going to satisfy you, so what’s the point in me giving you one?
You can give the obvious right answer and you refuse to do so.
I already gave the “obvious right answer”:
Ok, Billy Ray.
idgi
Don’t be him. Language is fluid.
Words have definitions
based on how people use them, not ordained by the gods of language. people say pedophile to mean someone who rapes a minor.
I mean you can also say someone is a murderer of they eat cabbage, but you’d be wrong.
Calling everyone you dislike a pedo is as lame as calling everyone you dislike a commie or Hitler.
Seriously… having sex with or raping a 17 year old doesn’t make you a pedophile. It makes you a statutory rapist. That’s bad enough without having to make dumb shit up as an insult.
I’m surprised and disappointed so many on lemmy are falling into that sort of weak bullshit but… here we are
what you should be disappointed in is not being able to make an argument without strawmanning multiple times.
what you’re doing is just refusing to cooperate on language that’s already obvious and widely understood. it’s bad faith.
I’ve made the argument countless times. If you want to call raping a 17 year old pedophilia, that’s up to you. I’m not going to call a swimming pool a lake.
Indeed they do. And since you seem to be under the impression that those definitions do not change, please define ‘silly’ for me as it was defined when it began to be used in late Middle English.
I feel you’re being silly regardless of the early or current definition of the word, but I’m betting you also don’t use the word that way.
Define pedophilia for me
I believe I asked you for a definition first. I’m not sure why you expect me to do that when you won’t.
Because your request was rhetorical and his is not, having a concrete answer that is actually fucking relevant and essential to the discussion.
I’m glad you’ve determined that on my behalf, but I don’t remember hiring you as my spokesperson.