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    Your view on Arab people is very racist. And your arguments don’t hold up considering that Israel and the west repeatedly torpedoed every democratic peoples movement, to the point where in the time leading up to the Al-Aqsa flood they only allowed cash transfers to Hamas pass the checkpoints. Freedom for Palestine is a call to end Apartheid and for a secular state.

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      The Arabs immediately attacked Israel when the British mandate ended, and Palestine was ruled by the PLO for nearly 30 years, which had a mandate to end Jewish existence in the area. And for the last 17 years they’ve been ruled by Hamas, who also wanted to eradicate the Jews.

      So history has shown that Palestinians are not exactly fond of their “secular” state having Jews in it.

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        That’s a disgusting reversal of the facts. For anyone interested in what really happened I can recommend decolonizepalestine.com Sources are linked everywhere so you can make your own judgment on where the Palestinian narrative makes sense and where it doesn’t.

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          It is not. The fact you call it a disgusting reversal of facts is a disgusting reversal of facts.

          And decolonize Palestine is idiotic too, the Palestinian Arabs are colonizers as well.

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            You can find an academic account on the 1947-48 war here https://www.jstor.org/stable/2537591 .

            I dont know how the arabs in palestine are to be seen as colonizers given that the notion of “palestine” came around the turn of the century but frankly I’m not interested in such mental gymnastics.

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              Most of the Palestinians moved to the area following the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after World War 1.

              And the region has seen mass migrations of people for millenia as it has changed hands between the Ottoman Empire, the Abbasid Caliphate, the Roman Empire, the Greek Empire, the Persian Empire, the Assyrian Empire, the Babylonians, and plenty of others in between.

              Everyone who lives there is a colonizer at some point in the last few hundred years.

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                Well thanks for sharing I suppose. Its rare to see a definition of colonialism this dumb and a lie so brazen.

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                  The Palestinians took the lands from previous peoples. Sounds like colonization to me.

                  Either everyone currently in the Palestine area is a colonizer, or no one is.

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                    I mean I probably shouldnt bother but here is some reading material on US colonialism in case you want to see what people actually mean by colonization (it’s not immigration)

                    https://readsettlers.org/text-index.html

                    do with it what you will. There is a text at the very end comparing Zionism and US Settlerism.