Why YSK: because what seems like equal situation from surface isn’t always equal opportunity for all. And even when equal measure of help is provided, it might not be equally useful.

      • Beemo Dinosaurierfuß@feddit.de
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        1 year ago

        I didn’t think the tree was either a tool or assistance.
        Especially since it is still the same in the second panel where tools or assistance are supposed to be equal.

        But I am not good at those things. I just don’t seem to get it.

        • Amilo159@lemmy.worldOP
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          1 year ago

          Tree is the situation, that is benefiting one person more than other.

          Equality means you provide equal help to all and expect them to be equally benefitted. Sometimes that doesn’t work.

          Perfect example would be a Spaniard and Frenchman learning a new language, say Italian. This would be easy for a Spanish person because Italian is similar to Spanish. Not so much for French. Providing them both with 10 hours of language classes will be equality but results won’t be equal.

          • Beemo Dinosaurierfuß@feddit.de
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            1 year ago

            Yeah thank you.

            The part that I still don’t quite get is why giving both people 10 hours of classes is equality but giving both 0 hours of lessons isn’t.
            (Or giving both kids 1 ladder vs. giving both kids 0 ladders.)

            I get that the analogy to a real situation would be to just let inequality run its course and that is obviously not the same as giving everyone the same assistance. I still don’t think the picture makes this point very well.

          • Beemo Dinosaurierfuß@feddit.de
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            1 year ago

            I really don’t mean to be contrarian but I simply don’t understand how a leaning tree can be assistance in panel 1 but not in panel 2.

            • VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf
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              1 year ago

              I really don’t mean to be a contrarian

              I’m not sure I believe that, but I’m gonna continue to give you the benefit of doubt for a bit more.

              The assistance being alluded to is assistance on top of the system to correct the negative effects of the system.

              The vast majority of the reasons any group of people is marginalised at all are systemic and stem from powerful people in the past (and, to a much lesser but still abhorrent degree, the present) writing the rules to give themselves and other people like them advantageous conditions compared to others.

              • Beemo Dinosaurierfuß@feddit.de
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                1 year ago

                Thanks for the benefit of the doubt I guess.

                I think I will stay at my own conclusion that this picture doesn’t do a good job of pointing out the differences between the panels.

                They could just as easily have given the left child the ladder from panel 1 on. That would show that just equalizing the tools and assistance doesn’t create real justice in a flawed system.
                I am not convinced that starting with no tools and assistance (aside from the tree that somehow is assistance in panel 1 and isn’t in panel 2) and then giving them both the same ladder makes that point very well.

                But maybe I still just don’t quite get it.

    • hikaru755@feddit.de
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      1 year ago

      So what? This is not about creating an absolutely fair world, it’s about improving heavily unfair systems.

    • imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Wow I didn’t know communism was so based and perfect. Thanks for letting me know what system to base my belief system around, kind stranger!