• shoulderoforion@fedia.io
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    16 days ago

    well, sure, but with Trump going back to the big chair, and working against European interests in favor of Russian and Saudi ones, Europe is in a very bad spot, and is going to have to start making deal with Putin. no one wants to hear this, and I’m sorry for what is about to happen to Ukraine.

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        16 days ago

        They don’t have to make deals with Putin, he can’t handle the EU, and America will only help him economically. The EU is the last democratic super block, they need to stand up for those of us that still want democracy to survive. I’m Canadian, we’re fucked. Japan just signed a comprehensive security pact with the EU. Obviously they have fascist leaders inside the house as well, but really, NATO is dead, we need them to step up. Here’s hoping, with little conviction.

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      16 days ago

      Europe is big enough to manage without the us. If we start working together. Starting with building up a defence industry quickly. That won’t be pretty for the US MIC, but that’s Trump’s problem.

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          I’m not saying it will happen. Just that it can be done with enough cooperation. And given the scale of the threat, it may happen

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            My comment was mostly about Russian and Chinese governments, realistically these will be the other poles of power in a multipolar world. “The global south” surely won’t benefit from either one. If you think the southern people will have it better being ruled over by an autocratic fascist China then you’re up for a rough awakening.