• Saleh
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      8 hours ago

      You are only proving it further. This kind of comments sounds just like MAGA voters. And that is part of the issue. How do you want to beat them politically, if you let them influence your political culture in their way?

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        No. I’m tired of people on Lemmy that aren’t even American trying to tell us what to do in our own elections.

        I don’t go astroturfing in posts about your countries politics. So yes, you can fuck right off.

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          If your country wouldn’t operate multiple military bases in my country, including storing some nuclear warheads here, operating huge lobby groups that captured large parts of my countries press as well as high ranking politicians like chancellors or foreign ministers you had a point. Economically we also have a lot of American investments. Heck the possible next chancellor is an asset of Blackrock. One of the leaders of the fascist party is an asset of Goldman Sachs and neoliberal think tanks.

          But as Americans are influencing the fate of my country quite extensively, i will voice my opinion about what they should and shouldn’t do. Which i think is a rather small influence compared to military, political and economic influence the US is exerting here.

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              7 hours ago

              And i voted for that consistently. I also demonstrated for that consistently. Sometimes being attacked by the state for it.

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                Ok. Did I tell you to do that? Did I rub it in your face that your countries leaders suck? Did I pretend to know exactly how your political parties work and what they want?

                So why are you in here trying to tell everyone what to do in a country you don’t even live in?

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                  6 hours ago

                  Again because your country has extensive military, political and economic influence in my country.

                  So whatever you decide has strong consequences for my country too. Are you familiar with the concepts of privilege and power imbalance?

                  You have the power, you have the responsibility. Now whether you want to listen to people who you have power over, or whether you say “America First” is something you have to make up with your own moral compass.