Notice how it’s easier to assume the other side is ridiculous and stupid than it is to consider that their arguments could have some validity as well. Wayyy to many of my coworkers are die-hard Trump fans and can’t imagine how dumb people would have to be to vote blue.
I assume the arguments we are supposed to consider aren’t the outrageously bigoted ones. Are there other ones in favor of Donald? Hard mode: that are based in reality?
Some people are privileged enough where it doesn’t impact them either way, or are at least stupid enough not to notice
Everyone is going to be impacted by this election.
If Trump is elected, we’ll be on a path to dictatorship and civil war. If Harris is elected, we’re on a path to World War III.
No American is escaping the consequences of this one.
If Harris is elected, we’re on a path to World War III.
Nothing about this statement is even remotely true.
why does harris mean world war 3?
is it because of funneling weapons to israel? because trump has promised to do that too. and has also promised NOT to work for a ceasefire.
On reflection they probably mean Donald would ensure Ukraine is taken over, which is true. I suppose that means delaying WWIII until Russia’s next invasion.
They must have forgotten Donald tweeting (nuclear?) threats at Iran from the Oval Office. Or they don’t think that would be a World War situation.
Basically, Harris is a war hawk. When she accepted the DNC’s nomination, she promised America would have the world’s most lethal fighting force.
On Ukraine, when they were asked about it in the debate, Trump emphasized the need to negotiate peace. Harris emphasized unconditional support for Ukraine.
Yes, there’s not a lot of daylight between Trump and Harris’s statements on Israel. But Trump’s statements were made before the conflict escalated to involve Lebanon, and I’m not actually sure if he even means what he says. Harris has maintained her commitment to Israel as the conflict has escalated, and even as it has generated discord in her party. I definitely believe that her commitment to Israel is sincere.
On China, it’s hard to be certain about Harris’s personal views, but the Biden administration that she is part of has escalated tensions in the Taiwan Strait. Trump, in stark contrast, is reported to have questioned the value of supporting Taiwan at all. (I’m not saying the US should abandon efforts at maintaining peace in the Taiwan Strait. But the US should definitely not be escalating tensions either.) Right now there’s no reason to believe Harris differs from Biden on the issue, especially considering her hawkish tendencies elsewhere.
You are naive if you think giving countries who threaten war or even start them everything they want and more is going to decrease the chance of more of the same.
I said nothing about giving any country everything that they want.
And Biden had plenty of opportunity to de-escalate the situation in the Donbas before it resulted in war, and he escalated it instead, just as he escalated the situation in the Taiwan Strait.
I think he was talking about big scary Pootin, threatening for the undecillionth time to push the big scary red button. Don’t think about Pootin being to scared to even call for a mobilization, just ignore that he’d rather throw north koreans into the meat grinder than his own voter base, because he’s scared of them. Just ignore that. Focus on that big red scary button. WW3 around the corner!
Ah yes Harris is totally working towards a ceasefire
Like the one that Hamas just rejected because it did not call for Israel to stop bombing or for it to withdraw troops or for Palestinians to be able to return to their homes
Yes definitely a ceasefire if you let one side keep bombing
I’m expecting at least some rioting if Trump loses. Just stocked up on booze and popcorn so I can ride this week out.
We’re on a path to WW3 anyway, trumps entire mandate from his handlers is to destabilize the US before things kick off so we’re in a weak position
Very well put!
Well, one of the
VP candidatescandidate’s henchmen is rather fond of eating meat he found on the side of the road…he’s not a vp candidate, he’s on several ballots as full on p candidate, and is lined up for a cabinet position if donald trump wins
Single issue voters. They ruin things for everyone.
That depends. If that single issue is “Every single thing that came out of this candidate’s mouth for the last few years was bat-shit crazy” that seems like a rather important single issue.
Gotta get that protein for the gains
What if the cereal is committing genocide?
Wow, sounds like neither would be preferable to both meals, then. Too bad that isn’t an option.
The raw chicken wants more genocide, your argument has no point
The raw chicken wants exactly the same amount of genocide
Even if that is true about the particular genocide people are referring to in this comment chain, the raw chicken is also doing Blood Libel towards Haitians and promising to mass deport millions of people.
harris at least claims she’s working towards a ceasefire. whether she actually is is up for debate. what’s not up for debate is that trump wants israel to finish the job.
It isn’t. So your what if is irrelevant to the point.
Thirty-three countries have recognized it as a genocide, and we’re waiting for a ruling from the International Court of Justice (in a case brought by South Africa).
I think it’s more how bothered can I be to go vote
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Should’ve written it like this
I think for the people living there it’s more “how bothered can I be to vote”
I see, so you’re letting somebody else decide on what you eat for breakfast.
And what you’re gonna eat tomorrow And what you’re going eat the next day And the next day…. For four years, and possibly longer.
Hope you like garbage chicken.🍗 🍗 🍗
Your breakfast was decided for you when you were chained to the two options presented
Nobody was chained with 2 options. The options were chosen and rallied for by representatives picked by the people who actually thought about and participated in local government elections. (I’m dropping the metaphor, since it glosses over the process by which these 2 options came about in the first place)
You can’t even make a hypothetical scenario where your point is true… sad
I’m not American
Oh, you probably should have opened with that.
Look around you.
Every thing in your life is from a political decision. How much money you earn, how much tax you pay, what the roads are like.
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you live in a place with rampant voter suppression that makes voting difficult.
I spent all of 60 seconds voting by mail. But even if I were to go vote in person, it’s never taken me more than ten or fifteen minutes, including travel time.
But I know there are some places where people are forced to stand in lines for hours. This is why we need voter protection laws.
Edit: Just saw your comment that says you’re not American. My comment still stands.
Voting is compulsory where I live
let’s be real… it’s between cooked chicken found loose, unwrapped in a dumpster… and entirely raw chicken also from a dumpster… and covered in arsenic and cockroaches….
but harris/biden are still terrible, and directly have been supporting a genocide in palestine….
trump would do all that and much much worse… but they’re both horribleOpen your eyes beyond your single issue of choice pease 😊
i don’t find arming a genocide to be a political “issue”…. it’s crimes against humanity….
to pretend like it’s some housekeeping issue is disingenuous, and you know it.
(i’m still voting for harris as the anti-trump vote)
Let’s talk about Harris’s policy other than Israel. What do you disagree with? It must be a considerable amount if you’re making this comparison, so let’s discuss it.
- Small business economic injection?
- Healthcare cost reductions?
- Tax cuts for the lower/middle class, tax increases for the ultra-rich?
- Social Security / Medicare boosts?
- Decriminalizing marijuana?
- Not implementing disastrous tariffs on foreign trade?
- Rent caps and first-time-homebuyer funds?
- Abortion rights?
- Combating corporate price fixing?
- Student debt relief and school funding?
- Child care assistance?
- Support for Ukraine?
- Tighter gun laws?
- Green energy?
Honestly, I’m Absolutely convinced the rhetoric surrounding Palestine in this election is 100% astroturfing by any of the various groups that are incentivized to undermine not just a democratic candidate, but democracy as a whole
It’s just such a reductionist rhetorical standpoint that offers zero actual solutions to anything at all.
But has Harris simulated oral sex in public?
If you want a candidate that represents you and will simulate oral sex in front of children, there’s only one candidate to pick.
My brother in Christ no one is defending Trump here. You can criticize Kamala without supporting Trump.
i find it hard to talk about someone’s policies other than gleefully supporting and arming a genocide… everything else is small potatoes….
like when she pretended like protesters were antisemitic and not anti-genocide… released a long statement just completely ignoring why they were there….
biden bypassed congress to give them more weapons….
they also helped fight the genocide in Ukraine… trump would help the israel genocide, russia’s genocide… and then get pretty genocidal with latinos in america… so i’m puking while voting for harris… no need to convert me….
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it’s not just cereal i don’t like thoughI’m glad you’re at least willing to see what’s worse. Maybe we’ll be pleasantly surprised by her policies regarding Isreal-- I did hear recently that only 17% of Israelis want Harris, vs (I think it was) 63% for Trump and his “finish the job” rhetoric. So if Israel hates her, that’s probably a good sign.
Aka: BOTH SIDES!!!
way to minimalize but although both sides suck, the drumpf one is infinitely worse….
but the alternative to drumpf isn’t yucky cereal….
it’s like 1 genocide vs 5 genocides… i’ll vote for 1, but only because it’s against the 5, not because it’s ok enough cereal, but because it’s not immediately deadly…Aka stop being a zealot.
Says the zealot. Your projecting. Again.
Uh huh, being against a genocide means “pROjeCtInG”