Relevant details that might make this a headache.
- Most my passwords are saved on the safari password manager and I use the “sign in with apple” on a bunch of websites
- My photo library is currently backed with an icloud subscription
Only flagship samsung and google phones offer 7 years of OS updates support.
Google, Apple and few other cloud photo storage service providers recently announced a service to move all your photos from Apple iCloud to Google and vice versa. It takes a few days but it’s all automated. So if you want to move on from iCloud, check that.
On iOS, I feel like doing things take a few extra taps and swipes than they would on Android.
But on the whole apps made for iOS feel higher quality. Even Google’s own apps are better on iOS. I feel like the problem is that Apple forces developers to adopt changes quickly, whereas Google lets apps use years old API versions.
You can export the passwords using a Mac and you can get the email ids being used for “Sign in with Apple” and just use that email id if you can’t change it on the websites. I do it now as some websites stopped supporting that feature.
Note: the following is based on an email I sent to clients who switched to Android last year. Sorry for long format but figured it might help.
TL;DR: Android can be a great choice. Just plan ahead and be careful.There’s a few extra steps to preserve data security and privacy. In particular, prepare to:
- Flash an open-source system
- Why: increasingly, data harvesting is deeply woven into the fabric of common Android systems provisioned for individual sale
- Google’s approach to system design adds privileged telemetric access everywhere for truly robust user surveillance (to which third party developers are offered access via their platforms)
- Manufacturers and carriers want in on the feeding frenzy, so they add their own data harnesses on top of vanilla Android to supplement their device sale and telco service revenues
- All this data proliferation will dramatically expand your attack surface if you’re not able to take responsibility for your own security hygiene
- How: select your preferred ROM first (since your device selection can be limited by compatibility) then buy your device and (if possible) flash it before carrier activation
- Why: increasingly, data harvesting is deeply woven into the fabric of common Android systems provisioned for individual sale
- Be vigilant and thorough in your audits of any app market installations, especially from the Play store
- Most app stores take little responsibility for what developers offer in their market (beyond the most obvious malware) and are especially hands-off re: user data collection and “dark patterns”
- In other words there are no guarantees (by Google, Samsung, Verizon, or anyone else) that you might be accustomed to with Apple’s strict (draconian) quality control
- Avoid installing anything by Google if possible, including the Play store, because their apps try very hard to re-google any de-googled Android system
- Find a different password manager
- KeyChain is basically impossible to use on Android without compromising security one way or another
- You can export your passwords to CSV and import to most password managers
- Host your own cloud photo sync/backup service
- While you can access iCloud Photos on Android in various ways, including through a browser, I’m not aware of any software that offers equivalent e2e integration
- There are several popular options but I was most impressed by LibrePhotos
Synology is a good option for cloud based backup of you want an out of the box solution.
- Flash an open-source system
In my experience, I feel like Apple does a much better job curating and vetting their content, making things a lot more stable. Also, Apple at least tries to care about your security and privacy vs the alternative.
I’ve also given Graphene a (short) try and while the privacy features are nice. I don’t want to spend time fiddling with my phone, and trying to get things working.
Yes, the new iPhones are expensive. But if money is tight, you can still get it subsidized by your phone provider. Worst case scenario, get a slightly older/refurbished iPhone.
Good luck OP!
Edit: I also prefer 1Password, but that is another discussion altogether.
Oh, and you are asking in an Apple community. You aren’t going to get many people giving you reasons to use something else ;)
The Android OS is very hostile to background processes running.
The rules around what’s okay and what’s not is constantly changing, so apps that need to run things in the background are constantly having to update things so they can work properly and sometimes they don’t, or they do it wrong, and then certain features don’t work properly like push notifications or schedules events.
Then, even if the developer does everything perfectly you get OEMs like Samsung that ignore the rules and fuck with your app anyway, and the literal only way to stop it is to go into the OS setting and disable a lot of things, which puts the onus on the user, and not the developer to make the app work.
But Samsung is such a bitch that even then they don’t honor your settings and sometimes revert them, or add new ones that fuck with it again in a constantly changing hard to find nested settings menu.
I actually do like my Samsung phone, but god damn fuck you Samsung for doing this.
If you want a phone that at least follows the ever changing rules properly, get a pixel.
It’ll take about 6 months to get used to the new UI. Don’t expect to not be frustrated by not being able to quickly do simple things you used to be able to do easily
The Android experience is quite a bit more wanky than Apple’s walled garden. I moved to Android a year ago and it took me months of fiddling until I was satisfied. Google really tries to give you their own not-that-walled garden, giving you an Apple-esque experience. If you are not 100 % invested, it could get finicky, though. The vendors usually provide their own standard apps, but more often than not, I find them unpolished.
Regarding Log in with Apple, you could, from what I experienced, get problems, as some Android apps won’t let you sign in wit Apple, and even websites don’support it all the time. Take Tripadvisor as an example. Create an account on the iOS app, and when changing to Android, you’re basically locked out, because neither their Android app nor their website support Log in with Apple.
Thanks. I’m actually considering /e/os (a degoogled privacy focused android fork) But I’m assuming sone of the issues here still apply.
I’m really iffy about the privacy constraints with android and the main reason I’m considering switching is
- lack of customisation (for me, torrenting is a must have which apple doesn’t allow)
- cheaper. I lost my job due to disability so I just need a more affordable solution than apple.
I went the /e/os way and quickly turned back. Not to dismiss the effort of the maintainers, but it really felt like a frontend on lineage os meant to sell alternative cloud services. I did not find convincing arguments over a bare lineage os and the pretty much forced /e/ cloud was a total turn off.
I went the “real” security / privacy way and switched to grapheneos. Very happy overall, already went thought with 2 major os updates, no issues whatsoever. Only issue would be if you want Google pay (won’t work on graphene). You’d need a pixel phone if that’s in your budget. The pixel phones are great at photos, but pretty “meh” otherwise
Thanks. I’ll look into lineage and graphene.
You can actually (indirectly) torrent on iOS via seed box. I use SonicBit, which has an iOS app. I find it’s actually more convenient than torrenting directly as the files are stored and seeded online yet still accessible to me when I need them. Then you can download the files to your iPhone/iPad.
for the first point, Transmission has a pretty serviceable web client that works great on iOS as a web shortcut
its just occurred to me you might mean downloading torrents directly to you iphone, rather than a remote to some other device… in that case a web client isn’t sufficient, you’d have to sideload
Thanks for telling me about sideloading. I’m now a IOS pirate, until I buy a new phone atleast because my battery doesnt last an hour lol
oh fantastic
Yes. Due to disability I’m unable to use a computer anymore, so I’d like to torrent onto my phone.
On the price side Apple is bringing out a new SE in 2025. Should be cheap. The First issue I don’t know about so can’t respond (torrenting).
Just don’t.
check my other comment
Checking.
As a recent converter to iOS I agree. Don’t.
Easy to just say that when you have the financial means available