Single issue voters damage democracy.
A system which necessitates or otherwise helps create single-issue voting damages democracy*
Voting for Harris means voting for an adult administration and the continuance of Democracy. It is always possible to have a grown up conversation with adults who are sane and respect the right of the people to speak out, demonstrate and get their members of congress to act better. . A vote for trump will be the end of American freedom. That administration will be in it for the money from whoever pays. And people dying will not be a problem. If war & genocide makes them money, that’s what will happen. Your rights and freedoms end when you speak against that administration. Gaza will be leveled and made into beach condos. Lebanon will become part of Israel. Ukraine will be Russia. Taiwan & Hong Kong will be strictly ruled by China. . Your vote is not about making a “statement”. Your vote is about keeping the freedom you enjoy as an American. It’s about electing the candidate that is a qualified adult. Just because the candidate is not the perfect one for you, does not mean you are going to “show them” with your protest vote for the other party. Especially when the other party has blatantly shown you that they don’t actually care about Americans, and they will turn our own military on us in retaliation. 100 years ago Germans had no idea that they would die in camps. Be tortured, raped, or be subjected to horrific medical experiments. But it happened. . It’s 2024, and 1 candidate is running on a platform that helps Americans and fosters a much better future that we have had. And 1 candidate just had a rally at Madison Square Garden in support of his idol. The idol that the entire world knows as the evil who created those concentration camps. . Sadly, it really is about Freedom & Democracy. All Americans need to think it through. Let’s just hope you don’t regret your decision.
I feel like you can add this to the right side
Why does Trump always get a pass?
It’s like everyone against him has to be an utter saint, and one wrong move? Welp, voting for Trump, I guess.
And yes, strategically… this makes no sense for anyone who cares about what’s happening in Israel.
Saint? Saint?! Do you understand what you’re saying right now? The Harris campaign has repeatedly refused to even engage with Arab voters, let alone address their concerns about their friends and family being murdered. To Arab American voters and organizations who have been thoroughly ignored and excluded by the Harris campaign, yeah fuck that of course they’re not voting for her.
“Harris does nothing for me, so I’ll vote for the guy who’ll have me killed.” Makes perfect sense.
Okay I’ll just say: Y’all deserve Trump. Seriously. If this community is even remotely representative of politically active democrats then y’all had it coming. Why is it that when I’m representing a viewpoint that’s not considered here everyone’s kneejerk reaction is to dismiss that viewpoint and shoot the messenger? No matter how you feel about it the fact that there are people who think that and the fact that they have valid reasons for thinking that remains. Arguing with me about their opinions changes nothing, and neither does mocking them.
It’s amazing what lengths you’ll go to to make apologia for ushering in fascism.
Sigh Do you understand how condescending you’re being right now? I got zero sympathy for y’all if Trump loses. With this attitude you’re doing it to yourselves. By the way you should read this. It’s just a Lemmy comment, but it summarizes what I wanna say to you and people who act like you better than I can myself.
Sigh Do you understand how condescending you’re being right now?
Oh, I’m so sorry for condescending to people who think it’s no big deal if people like me are thrown into a camp and murdered for literally no gain, material or moral, for them, because it makes their privileged asses feel smug about how pure they are, or some bullshit.
Well, put yourself in their shoes, and ask yourself why the fuck you would care what happens then? If your family is going to be genocided either way, and one party is going to be worse, but the end result is the same… Why do you care? Your allies don’t care, so why should you?
“It’s going to be worse, but also the same; and why would you care about literally anyone else?”
Like I said. It’s like calling for LGBT folk to usher in Bush Jr. because Al Gore isn’t LGBT-friendly enough. But hey, fuck everyone else and yourselves, right? It’s about that feeling of purity you get when filling out your ballot, right?
Yeah I got nothing else to say. If you think that makes you a guardian of democracy or whatever instead of a bootlicker, then go ahead. I’m not American either way so I’ll be watching with popcorn.
Yeah I got nothing else to say. If you think that makes you a guardian of democracy or whatever instead of a bootlicker, then go ahead. I’m not American either way so I’ll be watching with popcorn.
“Ha ha good thing America doesn’t affect the rest of the world, and who cares about American minorities getting genocided anyway?”
Do you lot even try anymore?
Also the democratic party has been in power, enabling the genocide for over a year.
That genocide has been going on for more than an adminstration though.
“I’ll vote to install a fascist government that will give Israel a blank check to destroy the Palestinians. That’ll show Harris!”
One of those two people is going to be elected. One of them will do nothing, and the other will actively make it worse.
Le bingo!
But I was told no one would ever consider letting Trump win and that it was just Very Concerned People™ voicing their concerns, not an attempt to throw the election to literal fascists???
In her view, it’s not her personal responsibility to stop Trump; it’s Harris’s and the Democrats’. And if Trump has another go at the presidency, then it’s only the Democrats to blame, not the voters who defected. Choosing to sit out or vote third party is a way to remind the major parties that they aren’t doing enough.
God I love it when people treat voting as a spiritual responsibility and not a matter of being entrusted with political power, really makes me feel great about the state of civic education in this fucking country.
And if Trump has another go at the presidency, then it’s only the Democrats to blame, not the voters who defected.
This is honestly the worst part of this whole thing, because if it happens, they won’t even have a come to Jesus “Wow, maybe I shouldn’t have done that” moment that might influence their actions in the future - instead it will just galvanize them against the party that they are ideologically closest to.
It would be like if LGBT folk in 2000 said Gore wasn’t LGBT-friendly enough, so they were fine with Bush winning.
Do they have legitimate complaints? Yes. Does that justify ushering in someone who will be worse for literally everyone? Fuck no.
I’ve literally seen people make that argument against Kamala. Apparently she’s not LGBTQ friendly enough 🙄
While also conveniently ignoring that Republicans are the ones blocking any progress.
It is infuriating.
With the massive middle finger Harris has been giving Arabs since the start of her campaign, how the fuck are you surprised?
I’m not at all surprised. I guess the sarcasm in the first line wasn’t thick enough for some people to parse. This is exactly what I expected from day 1 of this style of agitation, no matter how many times people swore up and down that it definitely wasn’t about ushering in a fascist dictatorship via Trump, just ‘expressing’ a desire for policy change.
Turns out it was all bad faith bullshit, just like so many of us recognized even at the time. Quelle surprise.
With the attitude of democrats (the term blueMAGA is looking more appealing by the second) this election I think I know why people vote Republican. The sheer condescension and speed of rejecting any idea you don’t agree with is astounding and frustrating. You cry about everyone who doesn’t agree with you wanting to usher in a fascist dictatorship; I’ll be watching while you lose Michigan (and maybe one other state) to the groupthink.
If people on the internet made you so upset you decide to vote for openly fascist Repubs to spite them, you had zero principles in the first place. You are and have always been a MAGA. (But of course everyone could tell from your pretending “Blue MAGA” is a thing.)
I’m not American so I’m not voting either way. Also I wasn’t saying I’d vote Republican or condoning it, but the sheer condescension I saw in that exchange makes it more believable if this exchange is in any way representative of politically active democrat voters. I also didn’t say I was voting republican in any part of my comment so I’m curious where you got that from.
That aside, you said blueMAGA isn’t a thing but preemptively blaming genocide victims for not licking the boot hard enough (instead of, you know, acting in solidarity or holding your leaders accountable) is definitely blueMAGA behavior. Getting defensive whenever someone points the very real flaws in your genocidal candidate’s campaign strategy (that was, in fact, how this comment chain started) and how they’re treating their constituents is blueMAGA behavior. Resorting to name calling whenever someone makes an objective, non-opinionated statement that indicts your candidate, or—god forbid—actually have an opinion that doesn’t agree with your is blueMAGA behavior. How do I know? Because it’s regular MAGA behavior with a dash of blue paint. And before you resort to more name calling, these are all things I experienced in this very same comment chain, for making these two statements: “Of course Arab and Mudlim Americans aren’t voting for Harris how did anybody expect anything else” and "No it’s not because they want fascism how did you even come to that conclusion ". If you disagree with either statement you’re welcome yo try and actually refute them with arguments, but if the only thing you have to say is calling me a Republican/troll/whatever then don’t bother.
You see what Donald is saying he will do and what Donald’s voters are writing online, then you see attitude you don’t like from Harris voters online. You still are willing to write that it’s believable people would vote for Donald despite the former because of the latter. Looks like we’re pretty lucky you’re not able to vote.
It is believable. I mean it’s happening, and denying that this sort of attitude isn’t part of the reason is denying reality. I never said it’s rational, because it isn’t, but it’s a thing and it’s partially leftists not understanding that that got you (and us since your elections affect everyone) into this situation to begin with.
Please stope writing and go away. Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad. The rest of us are willing to sacrifice a limb to save the patient. None of us enjoy it or are glad to have to make that choice, but WE HAVE TO SAVE THE PATIENT YOU JACKBOOTED DIMWIT.
First, I’m not sure if you realize how dehumanizing that sounds. Second, well sorry the limb being cut doesn’t quite like it. Third, reported for incivility.
You cry about everyone who doesn’t agree with you wanting to usher in a fascist dictatorship;
With the attitude of democrats (the term blueMAGA is looking more appealing by the second) this election I think I know why people vote Republican.
Mask off, really just astounding.
It’s not like Biden or Harris could’ve done a thing without being labeled a bunch of incompetent flip-floppers.
Imagine Trump saying they took too long, and the blood is on their hands, and he’d never do such a thing. But we all know how he handles stuff - on a golf course.
They’d just get Benghazi-ed and Gaza would still get leveled because Trump likes showing off how can do stuff like that. Probably make some off-hand disparaging comments about the dead like he usually does. His supporters would say even worse and laugh about all of it, run over the protesters, bust out the fire hoses, all that. Like they usually do.
So, who you gonna vote for? Hopefully not a bunch of assholes that’ll openly mock you or even drive a car through a crowd (like what has happened). Trump would say that there are good people on both sides after you get your shit kicked in at a protest. Don’t let 2020 make you forget how shitty 2016-2018 was because it was.
They’ll take anything from you, do anything to you, spit right in your face and walk away laughing, and you’ll just curl up screaming because there’s no recourse, like the good old days under Trump. Still, all for naught
Who wants to vote swap with me? I’ll write in Refaat Alareer if someone votes Kamala in a swing state. I’m in California so don’t tell me I’d be wasting my vote.
If they vote Trump, then I’ll be secretly clamoring for them to be deported out of America.
It’s possible to decry someone’s choices without wishing for more fascism, believe it or not.
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Louder. You need to hear it.
Usually you wait until someone disagrees with you in the slightest amount to call them a genocide-loving centrist.
In the past, when I said that Biden needed to stop supporting genocide, he was one of the loudest voices calling me a trump supporting russian for saying it. So yeah, he should say it louder. You need to hear it too.
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