Honestly I’d work under the assumption that restaurant employees knew what “86” meant. I’d still prob just write “no cherries” lol but the assumption isn’t that crazy. It’s common restaurant lingo.
Edit: people that never worked in a restaurant downvoting me “I NEVER HEARD OF NO 86, DOWNVOTED FOR SHARING AN ANECDOTE” lol this site is cancer. There’s a reason lemmy will never take off, and it’s the user base
Downvotes mean nothing here. You dont have to get upset. Writing 86 cherries when you mean no cherries on a piece of paper with no context is a dumbass thing to do. Write what you mean and be concise. Nobody writes down the number 86 when they mean no. The separation from the vocal component is enough to be confusing.
downvotes here mean exactly as much as they mean anywhere else
AND FOR THE 9TH TIME, I wouldn’t write “86” when I meant “no”, but expecting restaurant workers to know restaurant lingo isn’t some massive stretch. He’s not speaking Latin. the bigger dumbass is 100% the person who actually put 86 cherries into a milkshake.
It’s common resturant lingo but fast food is completely different from resturant work. Also “86” literally has the same number of characters as “no”. They could have put down “no cherries” with the exact same ease. They decided to play a stupid game so they won a stupid prize, a stupid amount of cherries.
I’m not sure how never having learned about 86 as I’ve worked makes me dumb. Besides that, I thought Lemmy wasn’t gonna take off? You can delete your account any time you want. You don’t make it easy on yourself by acting like a baby.
But wouldn’t the common restaurant lingo be “86 THE cherries?”
86 is a verb. To 86 something is to exclude it. But 86 alone is a number like any other. Just as 50 alone isn’t pronounced “five-oh” and doesn’t mean the Hawaii State Police. If I said “I’m 50,” you’d assume it’s my age, not my profession.
If I said, “That’s the shit!” I’d mean the opposite of “That’s shit!”
Also, a single cherry is the norm, perched decoratively atop the whipped cream. So “86 the cherry” would have been clear, and they could maybe get away with “86 cherry” according to you, but “86 cherries” might as well be “69 cherries.” You wouldn’t expect that to mean mutual oral sex.
You’re right, that would have been the “correct” way, with the “the.” When spoken it’s almost always said, or in the past tense like “cherries are 86’d.”
Of course, “no cherry” is leagues superior when you’re the customer, I mean really. He was just asking for a high ass employee who fully knew to just do it because they think it’s absolutely hilarious (and that would have been the right move lol.)
The other commenter is also right, the whiteboards in the kitchen always leave out the “the,” but that is a shorthand on a shorthand. They also probably write like “86 B.O” for “We are currently out of black olives,” and you don’t want to know how they abbreviate Jalapeños. The whiteboard is not a reliable source in that respect, it’s almost code, or like a Chef’s Cant.
I worked at a fast food joint for a while and never heard of 86 referring to something being out. We never even used numbers as codes for anything in the first place and I don’t know why we would when everybody is working in such close quarters with one another.
I’m 46 and it’s the first time I hear it. I would probably ask a manager what to do as 86 cherries is a lot but my AuDHD is ok with counting exactly 86 cherries lol
Working in fast food is pretty different from full restaurants. I worked fast food first, never heard the term until I started waiting tables a few years later. In fast food, there’s not as much of a chain of communication that requires pass phrases to get info across quickly. Just one kid with an order terminal and another kid assembling the order as it was entered.
All of that aside, if I hear someone use that term IRL, it does tend to sound pretentious because you’re basically using jargon outside of its typical area of use and expecting everyone to know wtf you’re talking about. It’s almost like you want someone to ask, so you can be like “you don’t kNoW???”
Probably people don’t mean to come off that way, but that is the vibe I catch most of the time.
In loud environments “lengthening” things makes sense, especially with sudden noises. “Spaghetti, eig-CLANG-x olives” is easier to understand than “Spaghetti, CLANG olives”.
It basically sidesteps any conversation about what you mean. If you said to the line or to your fellow waiters “no cherries” that wouldn’t make any sense. Like, in what context would they guess you meant that? You’d at the very least have to say “we have no more cherries”, which is much longer than saying “86 cherries”.
If you mean in the context of the OP, though, then yes I completely agree, the customer was being extra and not actually shortening what they were trying to say.
you’re basically using jargon outside of its typical area of use and expecting everyone to know wtf you’re talking about
I mean, the guy who used the restaurant term was giving directions directly to a restaurant.
Like I said, I would personally just say “no cherries”, but messaging restaurant lingo to a restaurant isn’t some crazy reach. Not enough to warrant the original comment that I responded to, basically saying “fuck that guy, eat your fuckin cherries”.
I mean, the guy who used the restaurant term was giving directions directly to a restaurant.
A “fast food joint” is not a restaurant in that sense. Nobody with any common sense would expect a bunch of kids working their (likely) first job for spending money to be up on, or care about, restaurant jargon.
So many people in here saying teenagers. It’s often older people who work these shit minimum wage jobs. How could McDonald’s be open at noon on a Wednesday if it was being run by a bunch of high school kids?
Didn’t mean to single you out really it’s just the fourth time in this thread I saw someone say fast food is a bunch of kids. It’s really fucking poor adults. Trust me I was one.
Nevertheless, my overall point stands. Each fast food place I worked at had their own chain specific jargon. Nobody used, or cared about, sit-down restaurant jargon.
It’s usually used in the context of a restaurant kitchen. Like if they run out of olives they would yell eighty-six olives. So don’t sell anything with olives without warning and don’t go looking for them.
To add, that’s the only context I’ve ever heard it used in when working in restaurants (to convey that we can’t sell or offer anymore of a thing). If someone order a lasagna with no olives, no one will say “lasagna, 86 olives”.
Worked in an italian restaurant for a few years. IIRC our lasagna generally had pork sausage, yellow squash, onions, bell peppers, black olives and a bunch of the usual cheeses. Probably had some other veggies too but it’s been a while since I worked there.
But, yeah, I would read it as pretentious little thing even if I knew the lingo. Honestly I approve the person getting 86 cherries. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Sorry dog I worked in food service as a teenager and didn’t learn what 86ing was until I heard Gordon Ramsay say it in an episode of kitchen nightmares.
Back in the day, there was a speakeasy with two doors. The entry door was through a small courtyard and the exit door was onto the street. If you knocked on the street door, which had the address on it, you couldn’t get in. If you got obnoxious, you’d be thrown out the street door. That door had an ‘86’ on it.
Honestly I’d work under the assumption that restaurant employees knew what “86” meant. I’d still prob just write “no cherries” lol but the assumption isn’t that crazy. It’s common restaurant lingo.
Edit: people that never worked in a restaurant downvoting me “I NEVER HEARD OF NO 86, DOWNVOTED FOR SHARING AN ANECDOTE” lol this site is cancer. There’s a reason lemmy will never take off, and it’s the user base
You’re being downvoted because you’re just flat-out wrong.
“86” doesn’t mean “hold this item”, it means the kitchen is out of that item.
So no, it wouldn’t make sense even to people that know restaurant lingo.
Downvotes mean nothing here. You dont have to get upset. Writing 86 cherries when you mean no cherries on a piece of paper with no context is a dumbass thing to do. Write what you mean and be concise. Nobody writes down the number 86 when they mean no. The separation from the vocal component is enough to be confusing.
um the guy in this post CLEARLY did so. i just proved you wrong pal
And he got his 86 cherries for his troubles.
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I’m far too busy to bother with copying, pasting sending the same reply 86 times.
downvotes here mean exactly as much as they mean anywhere else
AND FOR THE 9TH TIME, I wouldn’t write “86” when I meant “no”, but expecting restaurant workers to know restaurant lingo isn’t some massive stretch. He’s not speaking Latin. the bigger dumbass is 100% the person who actually put 86 cherries into a milkshake.
Restaurant lingo isn’t fast food lingo ya dolt.
In my 30s, and while I’ve heard “let’s 86 the _____” numerous times, I honestly wouldn’t have connected that to “86 cherries” on an order.
I’ve worked in food, fast and fancy, and nobody would say “86 cherries” instead of “no cherries”. Clarity is conducive to a smoothly flowing kitchen.
It’s common resturant lingo but fast food is completely different from resturant work. Also “86” literally has the same number of characters as “no”. They could have put down “no cherries” with the exact same ease. They decided to play a stupid game so they won a stupid prize, a stupid amount of cherries.
As someone who’s worked a few fast food jobs, no, I’d have no fucking clue what is meant by that. Piss and cry in your edit all you want.
“I NEVER HEARDA 86, DOWNVOTED CAUSE IM FUCKIN DUMB”
I’m not sure how never having learned about 86 as I’ve worked makes me dumb. Besides that, I thought Lemmy wasn’t gonna take off? You can delete your account any time you want. You don’t make it easy on yourself by acting like a baby.
You’re downvoted because dude. Just no…
“86 cherries” means eighty six cherries, “no cherries” means no cherries… If people learnt to communicate clearly this world would be a better place
Edit: also this has nothing to do with Lemmy being “cancer”? Your argument is poor
It’s even the same amount of characters 🤦
The edit makes it worse, it gives me another reason to downvote.
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It is absolutely common restaurant lingo. I can use it with anyone I know from restaurants seamlessly.
That said, fast food work is a different subculture.
But wouldn’t the common restaurant lingo be “86 THE cherries?”
86 is a verb. To 86 something is to exclude it. But 86 alone is a number like any other. Just as 50 alone isn’t pronounced “five-oh” and doesn’t mean the Hawaii State Police. If I said “I’m 50,” you’d assume it’s my age, not my profession.
If I said, “That’s the shit!” I’d mean the opposite of “That’s shit!”
Mileage varies. I’ve seen “86 [thing]” written on whiteboards more often than not, grammatically speaking.
Also, a single cherry is the norm, perched decoratively atop the whipped cream. So “86 the cherry” would have been clear, and they could maybe get away with “86 cherry” according to you, but “86 cherries” might as well be “69 cherries.” You wouldn’t expect that to mean mutual oral sex.
You’re right, that would have been the “correct” way, with the “the.” When spoken it’s almost always said, or in the past tense like “cherries are 86’d.”
Of course, “no cherry” is leagues superior when you’re the customer, I mean really. He was just asking for a high ass employee who fully knew to just do it because they think it’s absolutely hilarious (and that would have been the right move lol.)
The other commenter is also right, the whiteboards in the kitchen always leave out the “the,” but that is a shorthand on a shorthand. They also probably write like “86 B.O” for “We are currently out of black olives,” and you don’t want to know how they abbreviate Jalapeños. The whiteboard is not a reliable source in that respect, it’s almost code, or like a Chef’s Cant.
Yeah, I’ve never once heard it when I worked fast food, only full service
You’ve done both? That’s rough, buddy.
Bro these are high schoolers working fast food
I worked at a fast food joint for a while and never heard of 86 referring to something being out. We never even used numbers as codes for anything in the first place and I don’t know why we would when everybody is working in such close quarters with one another.
I’m 46 and it’s the first time I hear it. I would probably ask a manager what to do as 86 cherries is a lot but my AuDHD is ok with counting exactly 86 cherries lol
I’m 33 and I understood, probably more regional than anything
I’m guessing you’ve never worked in a restaurant? Like I said, in my experience it’s common in the industry
Yeah, but a fast food restaurant run by teenagers is not synonymous with a kitchen full of cooks lead by a chef.
Working in fast food is pretty different from full restaurants. I worked fast food first, never heard the term until I started waiting tables a few years later. In fast food, there’s not as much of a chain of communication that requires pass phrases to get info across quickly. Just one kid with an order terminal and another kid assembling the order as it was entered.
All of that aside, if I hear someone use that term IRL, it does tend to sound pretentious because you’re basically using jargon outside of its typical area of use and expecting everyone to know wtf you’re talking about. It’s almost like you want someone to ask, so you can be like “you don’t kNoW???”
Probably people don’t mean to come off that way, but that is the vibe I catch most of the time.
How is “86 the cherries” quicker than saying “no cherries”? Sounds like 4 times as long.
For context, I never worked in a restaurant and I just learned that jargon now.
In loud environments “lengthening” things makes sense, especially with sudden noises. “Spaghetti, eig-CLANG-x olives” is easier to understand than “Spaghetti, CLANG olives”.
It basically sidesteps any conversation about what you mean. If you said to the line or to your fellow waiters “no cherries” that wouldn’t make any sense. Like, in what context would they guess you meant that? You’d at the very least have to say “we have no more cherries”, which is much longer than saying “86 cherries”.
If you mean in the context of the OP, though, then yes I completely agree, the customer was being extra and not actually shortening what they were trying to say.
I mean, the guy who used the restaurant term was giving directions directly to a restaurant.
Like I said, I would personally just say “no cherries”, but messaging restaurant lingo to a restaurant isn’t some crazy reach. Not enough to warrant the original comment that I responded to, basically saying “fuck that guy, eat your fuckin cherries”.
A “fast food joint” is not a restaurant in that sense. Nobody with any common sense would expect a bunch of kids working their (likely) first job for spending money to be up on, or care about, restaurant jargon.
So many people in here saying teenagers. It’s often older people who work these shit minimum wage jobs. How could McDonald’s be open at noon on a Wednesday if it was being run by a bunch of high school kids?
Didn’t mean to single you out really it’s just the fourth time in this thread I saw someone say fast food is a bunch of kids. It’s really fucking poor adults. Trust me I was one.
That’s an absolutely fair point.
Nevertheless, my overall point stands. Each fast food place I worked at had their own chain specific jargon. Nobody used, or cared about, sit-down restaurant jargon.
Probably because that’s what the OP said were working there
What does 86 mean?
It’s usually used in the context of a restaurant kitchen. Like if they run out of olives they would yell eighty-six olives. So don’t sell anything with olives without warning and don’t go looking for them.
To add, that’s the only context I’ve ever heard it used in when working in restaurants (to convey that we can’t sell or offer anymore of a thing). If someone order a lasagna with no olives, no one will say “lasagna, 86 olives”.
Who makes Lasagna with olives? And WHY DOESN’T IT SOUND ALL THAT BAD?
Worked in an italian restaurant for a few years. IIRC our lasagna generally had pork sausage, yellow squash, onions, bell peppers, black olives and a bunch of the usual cheeses. Probably had some other veggies too but it’s been a while since I worked there.
It was good lasagna.
I think I should get more creative with my lasagna, those sound like good additions!
TIL, cool
But, yeah, I would read it as pretentious little thing even if I knew the lingo. Honestly I approve the person getting 86 cherries. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Sorry dog I worked in food service as a teenager and didn’t learn what 86ing was until I heard Gordon Ramsay say it in an episode of kitchen nightmares.
Here’s where the ‘86’ came from.
Back in the day, there was a speakeasy with two doors. The entry door was through a small courtyard and the exit door was onto the street. If you knocked on the street door, which had the address on it, you couldn’t get in. If you got obnoxious, you’d be thrown out the street door. That door had an ‘86’ on it.
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I have never heard of either 86 nor this speakeasy. What a cool thing to learn! Thanks for sharing this historic nugget!
Edit, autocorrect on grammar
ive literally never heard of that stupid slang in my entire life
86 your account bud