• JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    I know all the not-stupids already know it but it bears repeating:

    When we say Israel is a shitty genocide committer, we mean the Israeli government–Netanyahu and all his cunty supporters. Not all the normal people who live there who hate the shit as much as anyone else.

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      15 days ago

      It is important to note that the government had majority approval. The settlers annexing the Westbank was continuud by every single government of the past 30 years, even the “progressive” ones. The relentless attacks on Gaza had and have majority approval in polls.

      Removing Netanyahu is a first step, but Israeli society seriously needs to work through a lot of things for its “normal” to become in accordance with international law and basic principles of ethics and moral.

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        14 days ago

        49.5% of the voters voted for the current government.

        Which “progressive” government did Israel have in the last 30 years?
        Barak and especially Rabin’s government stopped the settlements.
        Olmert had the “realignment plan”, which was shelved due to the 2nd Lebanon war.

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          14 days ago

          The trouble is that the left, while otherwise staying lefties (something something pudding prices), swallowed the right’s idea of how to provide security whole-sale some time after Rabin’s assassination, the period of defiance, “now even more peace even harder” was all to short-lived. Quoth the Haaretz, Yigal Amir won.

          Pair that with just not wanting to see. Saw an interview with Israeli journalists, they were talking about how they were reporting about what the IDF and settlers were up to in the West Bank, they tried to do a bit of Gaza, but it’s all too easy to switch channels to a programme that doesn’t make you think and feel uncomfortable things. That, broadly speaking, is the culpability the broader Israeli public will have to come to terms with, that, if they hadn’t been that passive, the Kahanites wouldn’t have had the freedom to do it.

          Or, differently put: We need pictures of the heads of sniped Palestinian children on the wailing wall.

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          14 days ago

          To be fair the voters for the current govt had no idea they were going to go full blown genocide, when they carry their votes

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      15 days ago

      This applies to every State vs the people who happen to live in the so-called borders claimed by that State