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    Almost self aware.

    I have to support the wrong side because my family is on the wrong side.

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        Except that the slave owners were fine after the civil war. There were no mass executions, they got to keep their property (slaves excepted) and they retained so much political power they managed to reverse reconstruction within a few decades.

        There’s no reason you couldn’t dissolve the apartheid state without the violence Zionists claim would be wrought on them. South Africa can be a model for this.

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          Civil War was a country fighting itself for a few years. Israel and Palestine have been at odds for… Ever. There’s a little more animosity than the civil war. Also dissolving the apartheid state is anathema to Israel because they don’t want to share the land.

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            The ANC made a special point to protect the apartheidists during their Truth and Reconciliation hearings. It wasn’t until said white farmers began violently resisting efforts to repatriate land to native farmers that the government lost control of retribution. Even then, they weren’t “slaughtered”. Many simply abandoned the properties after the ANC failed to intercede on their behalf.

            Quite a few white South Africans are currently leaving to become converts to Judaism in order to participate in the Israeli Settler Movement

            From a former Pentecostal pastor to entire families, a growing number of Afrikaners are converting to Orthodox Judaism and swapping South Africa for Israel – and, in many cases, West Bank settlements

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            All of them? I’m pretty sure there’s still a lot of white south Africans around, just because there were a few incidents doesn’t make it largely peaceful. The alternative to a peaceful transition is Rhodesia, if you want to go the route of constant escalation.

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        That’s the same self serving BS excuse we heard from slave owners during the civil war, and from Afrikaners during apartheid.

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          You are delusional if you think you would have done any differently if you had been in their position.

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            If my family owned slaves they could go fuck themselves. Sorry to hear family is more important to you than not supporting horrifying amounts of racism, I hope they’re not voting for trump