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    Bluesky is decentralized only in its name. And media storage.

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    I’ve been on Bluesky and Mastodon but I’m seeing people pretty happy with how less toxic it is on Bluesky.

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      Just wait until enough sane people have left Twitter; it’ll then implode and the fascist Nazi shitheads will migrate.

      They don’t want an echo chamber- they want to be able to shout their slurs and right-wing bullshit at you while you can’t respond. It’s exactly why places like Voat and that shitty T_D knockoff crashed. Once the ration of right-wingers to non-right-wingers on Twitter hits a critical amount, they’ll start looking for other places to infest.

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        Yeah bro I wish they would keep to their own echochambers so they can become more and more radicalised and end up causing even more harm in the long run rather than at least having some if minimal exposure to normal fucking people /s

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      How? I’m mostly following mlp-related accounts on mastodon and don’t see any toxicity.

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    we’ve been seeing these “twitter’s in biiiiiiiiig trouble now!!” headlines for how many years now?

    yet people refuse to just delete it

    i can’t wait for the day i can go a full 24 hours without twitter shit showing up on every feed

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      I’ve deleted it ages ago, but another friend that actually knows and cares about the insanity of twitter still refuses to get away from it because “it’s where the kpop community is”, nowhere else. It’s fucking sad.

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      I deleted Twitter as soon as Space Karen took over.

      However, my friends and so many people I follow on other platforms still link their Twitter profiles. For some there needs to be something solid to make a real and consistent migration. I was overly hopeful that Threads (yes, another evil) would have buried Twitter.

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        Threads stood as much chance as Google Plus had against Facebook.

        Zuckerfucker using a somewhat similar strategy to artificially boost Threads membership (login with instagram once, you can’t delete your threads account without also deleting the instagram one) speaks volumes.

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          I also like the absurd amount of permissions it requires. Meta couldn’t let their guard down for a moment.

          To clarify, I mean Meta couldn’t be a little less data hungry in order to take marketshare from Twitter. They instantly needed access to absolutely everything at the start.

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      we’ve been seeing these “twitter’s in biiiiiiiiig trouble now!!” headlines for how many years now?

      this time it’s for realsies.

      yet people refuse to just delete it

      Many journalists want to feel connected, and since many politicians have a presence on Twitter, they feel like they can’t. That means Twitter gets referenced way more than necessary in news stories, which feeds its popularity.

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        I honestly don’t think twitter will ever go away until all of a majority of all major sports teams and leagues, a majority of legislative body members, and major news and wire services have a sustained and active presence on bsky. it right now is literally coasting on everything that made it useful pre 2022 and every stupid fucking thing elon has done to make the twitter experience worse hasn’t done enough to cause a critical mass of people to jump.

        once you see major popular twitter accounts like rex chapman, mark hamill, taylor swift and the like (and I say this not because of their politics but because of their massive follower base) regularly post on bsky you can probably start closing the book on twitter.

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    Whelp, did mastodon got something out of this screwup?

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      BlueSky has the one thing Fedi doesn’t: a large advertising budget. Hate to say it, but we have lost.

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          BlueSky has money. We don’t.

          People are going from one corporate-controlled social media platform to another corporate-controlled social media platform. You and I both know that’s the problem, but to the average user, they’re going to go to whatever has a large corporation spending a lot of money to tell them that their platform is the next big thing.

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            It sounds to me you are making excuses instead of confronting the obvious problems of Mastodon. It’s user-hostile to anyone who is not already a fucking nerd.

            Just like Lemmy.

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        Basically it’s “I can’t get ✨ engagement ✨ on Mastodon”

        People want big amounts of likes and reposts you don’t get that on Mastodon, the system is too distributed for that.

        Bluesky gives them the big numbers

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          They want an algorithm.

          As much as people mock it, or know it’s the source of why social media optimizes for outrage and other unhealthy behaviors, the algorithm is what they are missing on Mastodon.

          As someone who always used third party Twitter apps, and never directly saw the algorithm in my timeline, mastodon feels like Twitter always did.

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            we need People to tell us what to like!!!

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          People want to socially interact on a platform with the intention of letting you socially interact. I understand Mastodon intends to do the same thing as.BlueSky so the question is why is BlueSky more.popular.

          As someone who uses both. Mastodon’s UI and signup process is not as straight toward at least that is my personal reason why.

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          Mastodon is fantastic for niche things. For example myself and my colleagues use it for work stuff and I also use it with a few friends for gaming. that’s it. Beyond that if you’re going to Mastodon to reach a lot of people and chase clout or what have you you’re gonna have a bad time. you’ll just be shouting to the void in many cases. I also use it to connect with people using linux for help and suggestions.

          But just read feeds on Bluesky and you’ll see many people, probably the vast majority, just say they want something that “just works” and them trying to use Mastodon was too difficult. They didn’t understand the instances and what have you. It’s a generation that’s been raised on downloading an app, tapping on it, and it works. Login with your google, facebook, or apple id…that’s it.

          People these days simply don’t want to do too much to use something. they don’t want to customize their online experience like we used to do years ago. If it doesn’t instantly “work” right out of the box, they won’t use it. And even regardless of how much they’ll complain about using it and all it’s bugs and foibles (X/Twitter, Windows 11, etc) they’ll continue to use it cause, again, “it just works”.

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          The reasons mentioned in the article:

          One reason is that it seemed tech-savvy users heavily dominated the platform, making it difficult for regular social media users to find their way and feel comfortable on the platform.

          I think that’s saying the content tends to be very niche and it’s hard to find people with similar non-tech interests.

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          Users have described their timelines (and even the explore tab) as “stale” because there’s often not much interesting content to consume or engage with.

          This lines up with my experience: it’s hard to find people with similar interests. Even when you do, people aren’t saying much of interest.

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            Yep, same problem Lemmy has vs reddit. Only the nerdiest tech nerds got on here. Not many communities from reddit or just in general here. For example, I had to go back to reddit for a good sized general anime community. It’s that or fucking 4chan, and no thanks on the latter.

            To me, Lemmy feels very much a giant technology board with a few memes.

            But I will say, the past few days, Bluesky has gotten a lot more interesting.

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              Yep, same problem Lemmy has vs reddit. Only the nerdiest tech nerds got on here. Not many communities from reddit or just in general here. For example, I had to go back to reddit for a good sized general anime community.

              I’ve had the same experience. I still post here because I want the platform to take off, but Lemmy doesn’t fulfill my needs.

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            The last part I think happens because the people who are there are most likely the ones that dislike very short content, which is what Mastodon offers by default (I know it depends on instance, some allow 1k or 5k character toots), but it’s a disorganized mess. It’s a kind of service/software for fast communication that can be done better in a specific Discord server. The “good stuff” will always end up posted elsewhere, like personal blogs or websites, where it’s better organized (most of the time)

            One thing that keeps people on xitter is the “it’s where I get the news”. Major news outlets aren’t on Mastodon and likely won’t be. There’s also the stuff that “you get to know before it becomes news”, which also won’t be on Mastodon because it lacks the “gossipers” and the mass of users that is needed for having people “everywhere”

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              There’s also the stuff that “you get to know before it becomes news”, which also won’t be on Mastodon because it lacks the “gossipers” and the mass of users that is needed for having people “everywhere”

              It’s not the gossipers, it’s a trending view. Mastodon doesn’t tell users about active conversations as they happen. That makes it really hard to get breaking news, because you need to be following someone who is posting about it AND you need to recognize that it’s breaking news.

              Maybe that has improved in the year or two since I used Mastodon.