• Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    It is really easy to map onto human feel though. 0-100 pretty accurately maps onto our minimum and maximum realistically survivable temps, long-term, and the middle temperatures of those are the most comfortable. It’s far more round, when it comes to describing human preference and survivability, than Celsius is.

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      6 months ago

      I bet a lot more people know what 0°C feels like than 0°F. One is freezing point, one is a completely arbitrary temperature which only gets called “the lowest you’ll experience” as a post hoc rationalisation of Fahrenheit. Most people will never experience anything that cold, some people experience colder.

      I even bet more people know what 100°C feels like than 100°F. One is accidentally getting scalded by boiling water, the other is a completely arbitrary temperature which is quite hot but not even the hottest you’ll experience in America.

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        6 months ago

        What? People experience 100 f regularly. It’s literally their body temperature.

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          6 months ago

          100F is a fever; if you’re experiencing those regularly you should go see a doctor.

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      6 months ago

      No it doesn’t, unfortunately.

      What makes 0F (-18C) special? How do you estimate survivability at such temperature? If I’d be out on the street naked, I would die there in a matter of minutes. At the same time, there is plenty of places where winter temperatures go -40F (-40C) and even below, yet people very much survive and live there.

      Similar with 100F (38C). There are places with higher temps in the summer, up to 120F (49C) in some places, yet people survive. Still, if you’re not equipped with anything, 100F (38C) will burn you alive.

      All that not to mention that 50F (10C) is actually cold, not comfortable.

      Fahrenheit is only intuitive and “feeling-descriptive” because you’re used to it. From a person born in Celsius country, it’s really not less intuitive. I know I can be comfortable in my birthday suit at around 25C. Less than 20 is chilly, less than 10 - cold, less than 0 - freezing. More than 30 is hot, more than 40 is deadly.

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        6 months ago

        0F is the temperature a freezer needs to be to keep food fresh.

        50F is the point that you can’t survive without clothes, your body will not generate enough heat.

        100F (38C) will not burn you alive. You can survive for a long time in a sauna at 200F.

        100F is perfect hot tub temperature

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          6 months ago

          Freezer normally operates at -4F

          You can’t survive without clothes at 55-60F, either.

          100F will not burn you in an instant, but the comment went into long-term survival, and good luck surviving at that.

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            6 months ago

            Not sure where you got -4F from.

            USDA, United States Department of Agriculture, recommends 0°F or -17.8°C

            100°F in the shade isn’t extreme, and you’d be able to survive normally (With more water, everyone can use more water)

            100°F is hot tub water

            120°F is recommended hot tap water

            140°F water will pretty much burn you instantly

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                6 months ago

                90-110 is hand washing temp. 100 average.

                110 is hot

                120 recommend max

                130 very hot

                140 very very hot

                150 burns

                If I said to you. Would you stick your hand in 50°C water for 100 dollars would you do it?

                What about 60°C?

                65°C?

                I bet you don’t know what would happen if you stuck your hand in 65°C water without looking it up. There’s a huge jump from 60° to 65°C. 70°C will instantly scald you.

                Someone out there is stupid enough to think. Water boils at 100°C, 65 should be perfectly fine. Even though water doesn’t boil until 212°, most people would be cautious of sticking their hand in 100°F+ water.

                Yes if you think 40°C+ is hot then you can gather that 65°C would be hotter. But why compare to 40° when you can do 100°.

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                  6 months ago

                  Why compare it to 40°? Because I know what 40° feels like because I’ve been living in a civilized country with a civilized measurement system all my life. I can tell you that 65° is too hot, because I make my tea with 70° to 80° hot water. Therefore just before that will probably be too hot for my skin.

                  In the end, there is no objectively better system when it comes to day to day temperatures. But there is one when it comes to science, reliability and universality and that is Celsius.

                  All international science uses metric and slowly but surely the resistance amongst US universities melts away and they switch to metric as well. Give it another one or two generations and we’ll finally be rid of the outdated and arbitrary imperial system!