• Dave@lemmy.nz
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    2 months ago

    That graph is so misleading. Makes it look like almost all the users disappeared but the Y axis only covers a small range at the top.

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      2 months ago

      The full range is about 5.5%. So while it is misleading, a 5% drop in a graph that consistent isn’t nothing. Something substantial absolutly changed

      • beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 months ago

        Cool then it should be 5.5% of the visual space for it to not be misleading. But it’s represented much larger. And OP is (edit to sound less mean) not updating the post sooo…

        I call shade

      • Dave@lemmy.nz
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        2 months ago

        Exactly. Not the over a million that it looks like at a glance.

        The user count isn’t helpful anyway, active users is a much better measure.

    • Blaze (he/him)OP
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      2 months ago

      I captured the graph with the number after the decrease at the bottom right to try to show the number of lost users, but I see where you come from

      • beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 months ago

        If you saw why people would criticise it then you’d… edit the post, recapture the graph with an accurate visual representation including the zero on the Y axis?

        • Blaze (he/him)OP
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          2 months ago

          Well…

          • that’s how the website displayed the graph when I took that screenshot, I’m pretty sure you can’t modify the axis
          • I’m not on my computer at the moment, editing is the most I can do right now
          • if you can capture the graph with 0 on the Y axis, please post it below and I’ll update the picture
        • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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          2 months ago

          Or just inform the other adults to consult the axis for clarification.

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          2 months ago

          It’s the only way to demonstrate the fall, of you did it at scale it would’ve even be noticeable.

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            5% is noticeable unless the graph is under 20 pixels tall. Even then, dithering or antialiasing techniques could make it visible.

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              2 months ago

              There are people here who didn’t even notice the axis and are confused. How do you expect everyone to notice a 5% drop lol.

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                Well if they didn’t even notice an axis on a graph, they might be too stupid for a graph…

                My point was only to say that 5% is very mich visible on a 0-100% graph.

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                  My point is that it is hardly visible and doesn’t show the exact numbers properly. I prefer the current style of graph for showing sudden changes if the previous data points isn’t that important in the context. But everyone has their preference I suppose.

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      2 months ago

      no it’s not?

      you can see the axes and op even mentions that it’s a 5% drop

      the graph is clearly just fitted to the data

      • Blaze (he/him)OP
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        2 months ago

        I edited the title after their comment, it wasn’t that clear at the beginning

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        In my classes on analytics, we were taught to prefer using normalised axes starting at 0 to more accurately put changes into perspective.

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        the graph is clearly just fitted to the data

        That’s the problem. It’s heavily skewed when compared to the greater overall engagement statistics.

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        I have a feeling it was caused by something like that, likely a failure of some kind. The drop is way too steep and abruptly for it to be natural.

        • Blaze (he/him)OP
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          2 months ago

          Active users are daily too (you have day, week and month counters in the sidebar of all communities)

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              2 months ago

              The Fediobserver has daily and monthly stats for active users. I assume daily indeed follow daily variations. You also saw those huge bumps when LW updated and started counting votes as activity

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                I think the observer shows daily and monthly stats for the active users per month and active users per half year so the active users per month wouldn’t change as fast I think.

                Also about it being a botfarm I do think that is a possibility. Actually there is more evidence for it when you see extend the graph to 120 days and see a huge uptick in users and servers at the same time. Edit: 2024-7-29

                Edit: wording

                Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

                • Blaze (he/him)OP
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                  I think the observer shows daily and monthly stats for the active users per month and active users per half year so the active users per month wouldn’t change as fast I think.

                  Indeed, I was remembering it wrong, you might be right!

                  Also about it being a botfarm I do think that is a possibility. Actually there is much clearer evidence for it when you see extend the graph to 120 days and see a huge uptick in users and servers at the same time. Edit: 2024-7-29

                  Definitely

  • poke@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Which one of you forgot to open the app so we all ceased to exist to save on simulation resources?

  • itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Was the metric measured before the day the was over which would limit the timeframe of the final day and show fewer users?
    I dont see this chart when I click the link