• qprimed@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    ?! and this is supposed to be good news? no change against the narcissist, sexual abuser, traitor, convicted career criminal trying to squat in the seat of power that controls one of the most lethal nuclear arsenals?

    are you kidding me?! this is what the Democrats are accepting? anyone proclaiming this as positve news is as delusional as the magas, perhaps more so.

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      I mean when you’ve got an existential election and the options are a barely functional geezer who will just do whatever his staff suggest and stupid Hitler your choice is going to be a forgone conclusion. It’s not a choice between two shitty candidates, it’s a choice between one shitty candidate and literal fascism. You either want fascism or you don’t. All these “undecided” voters are either hilariously ignorant, closet fascists, or both.

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        I don’t believe undecided voters even exist. Like. No. Seriously.

        This is the most polarized election in US history. we know both the candidates, we know how they did during their tenure as president. we’ve all got our opinion on it. The only question is, really, “how many voters are going to show up”- and more specifically, “which side loses the most voters?”

        Honestly, there was never a positive upside for the debate. It’s just an opportunity to give them more soundbites or images of biden looking… well, old. (and give trump a bunch of one-line zingers. his base doesn’t care about the truth, just that he ‘owns the libs’)

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        This whole issue is about replacing the shitty candidate with one that is less shitty because the other guy winning is literal fascism. It shouldn’t be a close race!

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            Yeah, where was all this “The president can just have you killed without due process!” outrage when Obama had a Denver born 16yo citizen killed without due process? Neolibs haven’t held this party to account since the 90’s, and are now surprised (or unconcerned) that it’s become a social club that cares more about maintaining internal control than winning elections.

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      Lmao bruh.

      You’re a weird mixture of disillusioned and naiive if you think that the narcissist, sexual abuser, traitor, convicted career criminal trying to squat in the seat of power that controls one of the most lethal nuclear arsenal's supporters were going to be swung by rational debate over ideas.

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        no one is trying to swing them - they are completely lost to rationality. mobilization is the goal and, I can tell you, there is zero fire out there to mobilize an anti-trump turnout.

        many may vote for the genocide enabler over the actual clown-fascist, but we are fucked as a country when, in the face of blatant authoritarianism, the best we can put up is biden. un-fucking-real.

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      Did you watch the debate?

      Yes. It’s excellent news. There’s a reason people are panicking. Yes Trump is all of those things. Yes the debate was that bad.