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China should set a “strong but achievable” target of slashing emissions at least 30 percent by 2035 when it submits updated climate commitments in coming months, a report urged Thursday.

Signatories to the 2015 Paris climate accord must announce by next February their updated roadmaps to achieve the treaty’s goal of limiting global temperature rises.

China currently aims to peak carbon dioxide emissions before 2030 and reach carbon neutrality by 2060.

But its policies and targets are rated “highly insufficient” to limit global warming to 1.5 Celcius above pre-industrial levels, according to the Climate Action Tracker project.

The Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (CREA), a think tank that tracks climate progress, said Beijing should aim for an absolute emissions reduction target of 30 percent.

As the world’s largest emitter, China’s “ambition in its climate agenda is decisive for keeping the international community on track,” CREA said in a report.

To meet that target, Beijing would need to slash electricity sector emissions by 30 percent and emissions from industry by a quarter. It should also set a target of reducing non-CO2 emissions by more than 35 percent, the group said.

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But Teng Fei, deputy director of Tsinghua University’s Institute of Energy, Environment and Economy, called the “extreme” goal of a 30 percent emissions cut “too ambitious to be achievable”.

“I think China is in the process of stabilising its emissions, so it’s quite uncertain, for this period, to what extent China can reduce its overall emissions,” he said.

China is currently moving to bolster its flagging housing market, which could trigger higher demand in industry, and increase emissions.

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Coal installation is continuing [in China] in a bid to secure baseload supply, and methane emissions are also rising.

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    Climate Action Tracker for China

    • Policies and action: insufficient
    • NDC (nationally determined contributions) target against modelled domestic pathways: highly insufficient
    • NDC target against against fair share: insufficient
    • Overall rating: highly insufficient

    [Edit for clarity.]

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    The US has nearly fully abandoned all targets it has made, in contrast China has built more wind and solar capacity than the totality of us power capacity in the last ten years.

    China’s doing fine.

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      @basmati@lemm.ee

      This is the -unfortunately expected- whataboutism.

      Additional renewable energy capacities do not compensate the harm done to the climate by carbon dioxide emissions, and China’s emissioin are still rising while it is already the world’s largest emitter as the report also says.

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        It’s not whataboutism, id recommend looking that up before using it again.

        China is currently building more new renewable energy than the entire world is building new energy, combined, specifically so they can phase out coal and oil, eventually even LNG.

        They’ve accomplished more than every other country when it comes to sustain nable energy capacity, and will continue to do so while the US increases it’s lead as actual top polluter per capita.

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          The renewable energy is one thing. China is the largest emitter of carbon dioxide, and emissions are still rising.

          It’s blatant whataboutism as this report is on China, and it says the country’s climate emission policy is insufficient. Just read the report.

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            They’re the same thing, China’s CO2 emissions are high because: they take it n the bulk of the Wests manufacturing, and they doing a lot of extra manufacturing to lower their emissions long term.

            China does think in quarters or years, but decades. Their goals have been met, and are precessing as planned to a) lower manufacturing demand by outsourcing the dirtiest labor like the West did to china, and b) eliminate dirty sources of energy production.

            They have already beat every single other nation in every single category in relation to lowering their emissions, while still getting blamed for emissions that should be attributed to the West as the primary consumers of the goods produced.

            When the US installs 30GW of solar a year, let me know, until then this report, like every China bad report in the last decade, is horribly biased, poorly sourced, and solely was made to ease the ego of the West after constant failure.

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              China’s consumption-based emissions per capita are virtually as high as the EU’s now. It is not accurate to say China is only emitting because it is making things for the West.

              They have already beat every single other nation in every single category in relation to lowering their emissions

              Except actually lowering emissions, which China has not done at all.

              Installing heaps of solar is great. Doing so does not offset also installing heaps of fossil fuel power, which it has also done

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              2 months ago

              You continue to engage in whataboutism. What a waste of time.

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                You continue to not understand words, Mr Shapiro. My hats off to your dedication.

                Anyway, China passes US GDP next quarter especially after the hurricanes, and I’m sure you’ll post another twenty anti China articles about why that’s the end of the world.

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      Unless you have information that isn’t in the article, it isn’t “doing fine” at all. It’s just not doing as badly as the U.S.

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        https://www.iea.org/countries/china/

        Not a tanky or China apologist but it’s actually doing fine (not great but very well might be soon).

        Here’s the information you’re looking for. China is doing a lot of things right and is ahead of schedule. They’re making good progress on electrification and their renewables are growing exponentially at an insane rate.

        They’re still addicted to coal but with the developments in solar and wind and a very large geography and energy storage programs they’re going to be phased out and really fast in the coming years.

        Given the fact that they’re pretty much producing everything for western economies and is recently industrialised China is actually doing fine. They emit a lot less per person than the average European while producing goods for 2x their population.

        It might sound weird but China is one of the countries that’s actually taking climate change seriously.

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          Given the fact that they’re pretty much producing everything for western economies and is recently industrialised China is actually doing fine. They emit a lot less per person than the average European while producing goods for 2x their population.

          From your own source, the EU emitted 5.6 tonnes per person in 2022. It doesn’t show per capita numbers for China, but it does show a total value of 10,613,171,000 tonnes for 2022. Divide that by 1.412 billion for China’s population and you get 7.5 tonnes per person

          Consumption-based emissions, to account for the balance of imports and exports in China and the EU, do put Europe’s per-capita emission above China’s. But it’s by 10% in 2021, and the trend shows the gap narrowing year on year as China’s net emissions increase and Europe’s decrease.

          The investment they’re making into clean power is great. It just doesn’t cancel out the simultaneous expansion of fossil fuel usage.

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          No one is doing fine and they aren’t taking it seriously enough. China doesn’t deserve any more praise than anyone else. We’re all destroying the planet collectively.