The rate of bombing in Gaza has drastically slowed compared to the opening stages of the war. Israel can be accused of being too blase about civilian death, but there is no evidence of systematic attempts to eradicate the Arab population entirely. I have yet to see any credible evidence of anything but Israel having a disturbing willingness to kill 10 to get 1, if you get me. That’s horrific enough, you don’t need to exaggerate it by calling it genocide. There’s plenty of legitimate enough concerns about Israel’s bombing campaign without resorting to sensationalism.
Huge, huge, difference between not caring if you hit the next building by accident in an otherwise precise airstrike, and rounding up and killing them all. You should account for the inherent destructiveness of modern urban warfare also. Go on google earth and look at what the Russians did to cities in East Ukraine. Just because something is horrible, tragic, awful, doesn’t make it a genocide. It is impossible to fight a war against an entity like Hamas and not have innocent people hit in the crossfire. Israel is in an unwinnable position in that sense. It either lets hamas terrorize it’s population, or it fires back and risks killing innocent people.
It’s a complex situation is what I’m getting it. Let’s not pretend it’s anything else to suit some juvenile good/bad narrative
Except they aren’t experts. People who work for the UN and Human Rights Watch are. I’m not sure why you are equating random internet commenters to them. That’s highly dishonest. It’s like saying that you know more about the brain than a neurologist because a lot of internet commenters agree with you. The universe doesn’t work that way.
I’m not going to get into the internal politics of the UN or the shit track record when it comes to accuracy that the activist wing has. Fact is you and me both know you can find a source that says anything you want. It’s irrelevant and boring on top of that. I’m not doing homework for you.
I gave you a couple paragraphs explaining my reasoning. Now if you want to talk about that then fine
And you have not found any sources at all. But I get it that you think you know better than any of those dumb experts with their stupid university degrees.
Fact is you and me both know you can find a source that says anything you want. It’s irrelevant and boring on top of that.
I love seeing people trot out this line, its when you know they know they’ve run out of arguments lol. When ‘anyone can find a source that says anything’ and you can’t even do that much, you’re basically admitting you’ve lost the argument.
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Systematic blockage of aid, murder of medical personell, humanitarian aid woriers, massacres at food distributions, systematic and near total destruction of housing and agriculture…
Describes the criteria of the UN convention pretty darn well. And there is nothing complicated about it. Israels officials have repeatedly announced their acts and the intention of their acts, even expressing regret, that the international community wont let them murder every single Palestinian still alive.
The rate of bombing in Gaza has drastically slowed compared to the opening stages of the war. Israel can be accused of being too blase about civilian death, but there is no evidence of systematic attempts to eradicate the Arab population entirely. I have yet to see any credible evidence of anything but Israel having a disturbing willingness to kill 10 to get 1, if you get me. That’s horrific enough, you don’t need to exaggerate it by calling it genocide. There’s plenty of legitimate enough concerns about Israel’s bombing campaign without resorting to sensationalism.
Huge, huge, difference between not caring if you hit the next building by accident in an otherwise precise airstrike, and rounding up and killing them all. You should account for the inherent destructiveness of modern urban warfare also. Go on google earth and look at what the Russians did to cities in East Ukraine. Just because something is horrible, tragic, awful, doesn’t make it a genocide. It is impossible to fight a war against an entity like Hamas and not have innocent people hit in the crossfire. Israel is in an unwinnable position in that sense. It either lets hamas terrorize it’s population, or it fires back and risks killing innocent people.
It’s a complex situation is what I’m getting it. Let’s not pretend it’s anything else to suit some juvenile good/bad narrative
Juvenile? I gave you expert opinions.
And I have good reason to believe they are wrong. 😊
Which is what? What expert opinion do you have? Or is this one of these “I know better than the experts” things?
Half a million other experts on the internet.
I said my bit, look up what’s in it yourself.
Except they aren’t experts. People who work for the UN and Human Rights Watch are. I’m not sure why you are equating random internet commenters to them. That’s highly dishonest. It’s like saying that you know more about the brain than a neurologist because a lot of internet commenters agree with you. The universe doesn’t work that way.
I’m not going to get into the internal politics of the UN or the shit track record when it comes to accuracy that the activist wing has. Fact is you and me both know you can find a source that says anything you want. It’s irrelevant and boring on top of that. I’m not doing homework for you.
I gave you a couple paragraphs explaining my reasoning. Now if you want to talk about that then fine
Again, I didn’t just give you the UN.
And you have not found any sources at all. But I get it that you think you know better than any of those dumb experts with their stupid university degrees.
I actually have one of those stupid degrees.
Jokes on you, I was an expert all along
I love seeing people trot out this line, its when you know they know they’ve run out of arguments lol. When ‘anyone can find a source that says anything’ and you can’t even do that much, you’re basically admitting you’ve lost the argument.
You got google
https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-prevention-and-punishment-crime-genocide
None of that describes to situation in Gaza, which is complicated
Systematic blockage of aid, murder of medical personell, humanitarian aid woriers, massacres at food distributions, systematic and near total destruction of housing and agriculture…
Describes the criteria of the UN convention pretty darn well. And there is nothing complicated about it. Israels officials have repeatedly announced their acts and the intention of their acts, even expressing regret, that the international community wont let them murder every single Palestinian still alive.