• Snowclone@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Bush was clearly the face man of an executive admin that he didn’t run, he was s figure head. Clinton, it was assumed by the press and a lot of the voter base wasn’t running his admin, the first term Hillary was said to be running things and a slew of technocrats was assumed his second term, Reagan, we now know historically, was experiencing Alzheimer’s all through out his presidency, much like Trump, he also had a strict schedule of not even pretending he showed up to work.

    There’s nothing wrong with electing the face of an administration you want in office, this is largely Obama’s admin still running the government, that’s what we all want. Unkie Joe can take all the naps he wants, it make no real difference.

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      I don’t know why everyone thinks this is some rarely understood point. I think most people get this.

      However, You have to be electable to a country where 30 to 40% of people. Think Trump is a god king who can do no wrong and never lies. Hillary’s administration almost certainly would have been better than Trump’s. Hillary still lost. Biden running as he is now is dangerous. That’s where it makes the real difference. Biden might lose to trump and we might get Trump again. Any other sane and half way competent milk toast politician won’t have that problem. Biden continuing to run is a danger to democracy.

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      This is a really important point.

      The president is really only as good as his staff. They can only do so much as an individual person.

      Joe Biden knows how to hire a good staff, and respects the limitations of hisnl office.

      Meanwhile, if Trump could’ve harnessed the energy from his revolving door of “loyalists”, we might’ve been able to stay under 2°C.

      But, part of Project 2025 is actually planning to make 50,000 merit-based non-political positions (basically middle-management, and sometimes lower, at NASA or ATF or Dept of Education or FDA) into political appointments, and fire them if they don’t toe the party line. In order to circumvent Congress and run everything unilaterally.

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          Yeah. That was a weird comment…

          Biden supporters try to defend Biden, and always end up making the argument that trump is terrible and/or the president isn’t important

          So like, we should just replace him is the logical conclusion.

          But that’s the opposite of what they set out to say.

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            5 months ago

            The president sets the tone of the administration. Ultimately they are the big boss, but they don’t do everything.

            I take issue with being called a Biden supporter. Biden is mediocre at best. I’dve much preferred if a more…motivational, I guess, DNC candidate in 2020. We obviously knew that whoever won would be 4 years older (and many more battle-worn) come re-election, and it’s pretty unorthodox for any party to let the incumbents president be primaried. I can’t think of a time.

            In fact, I think the DNC was secretly hoping that Biden would’ve bit the dust 2 or 3 years in.

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      This is a terrible sentiment. Yes, no leader can do things by himself. But he needs to be present. He needs to understand what is going on. He needs to be able to resolve conflicts and make decisions. And he needs to smell it, if someone is trying to sell him bullshit.

      Do you think the administration is just all great teamplayers who have no agendas of their own, who have no conflicts or problematic histories with each other? Of course not.

      Think of it like any team sports team. You cannot win the superbowl or champions league with a bad trainer.