Is this the same AfD that got involved in several Russian spy scandals? It’s an interesting coincidence their agenda and Russian interests always seem to line up.
No, it’s the same AfD that got involved in several Russian and Chinese spy scandals.
Yeah, they want all kinds of things. A Brexit for Germany, less taxes, more taxes, less freedom, ruin the economy, autocracy instead of democracy…
Do they really want all those individual things, or do they just want a Fourth Reich, but can’t outright admit that, so have to come up with plausible cover?
They basically want to sell Germany to Russia and China for personal gains. They’re just a bunch of disgusting, egotistical fucks that don’t give a shit about Germany and its inhabitants.
I don’t know and my empathy isn’t good enough to picture what a person like that wants. They seem to be pissed, the complexity of the world is too much for them. And they’re a bit low IQ but speak up immediately and tell some simple truths that won’t ever work in reality. Their thinking is: When I was young everything felt simpler. When I was young we also had a different currency. So bringing back the old currency will solve all issues… So I’m not sure if they even want the fourth Reich. I think they just want to be negative and complain. They’d probably also complain if that happened.
That’s quite accurate. When Corona started, they were the first to demand strict measures.
As soon as the government started to take measures, they were out in the streets protesting against mandatory masks and everything…
The core idea is to keep the – for Germany profitable – EU internal market while cutting away most cohesion projects.
So. Being Norway.
I believe that was basically what Nigel Farage campaigned on when going for Brexit.
Eh, do not hate on us or compare us to AfD just because we do not want to join the EU as full members. Our geography means we need tariffs to have a viable agricultural sector, which is important in times of crisis. We also have a lot of labour rights and stuff that is not compatible with the laissez faire ideology of the EU. It is bad enough that all public acquisitions have to abide EU’s bullshit “competiton” rules, that impair public services because they have to shift value from benefit and quality to short sighted quantifiable metrics usually in form of untrue cost reports.
I really want Norway to be able to join the EU, but the EU has made itself an entity that would screw us over hard, effectively limiting our ability to participate beyond EEA. The EU has also decided that EEA members have no voting rights, making it hard for us to shape policy in a way so that we could join without conceding crucial societal issues to the bourgeouisie that effectively control the EU.
So, if I get this correct – joining the EU would be a step backwards for Norway, but joining Norway could be a step forward for the EU?
Sounds genuine. I’m sold.
We might be taking that step back anyways, but I am not quite sure we are in position to change the EU in significant ways.
The AfD was founded as an anti-EU party, even before drifting ever further right.
