The Palestinian Authority (PA) prioritizes its payments to terrorists, and has therefore lost more than 6.96 billion shekels (over $1.88 billion) in the last 5 years alone, according to its own data.

The official PA news agency, WAFA, criticized Israel for causing the PA’s financial crises largely by deducting money that the PA uses for terror payments. However, a look at the PA’s numbers shows that the PA itself is responsible for its crises.

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    After the massacre and atrocities committed by Hamas and Gazans on October 7, 2023, Israel has been making deductions from the PA in accordance with the amount that the PA sends to Gaza each month. The sum of these deductions is sent to Norway for future distribution, when Israel will be able to be sure that the proceeds will not go directly into Hamas’ hands.

    Once again, Israel labels anyone in Gaza a terrorist…

    Fuck Israel’s government and any bullshit they spread to obfuscate they’re almost a year deep into a genocide.

    All their doing is keeping money out of Gaza so the suffering can’t be helped. Same as when they lied about UNRWA to trick other countries into pulling funding

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      Has the ever been a war where one side was expected to fund the other side’s government and military?

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        Bruh, if you don’t think Israel funds Hamas, you have no idea what is going.

        Like, they literally pay Hamas… Israel doesn’t even deny it, it’s a fact.

        They control damn near everything in Gaza and have for decades, the people don’t even want Hamas, Israel refuses to allow them to have an election to replace Hamas.

        https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

        https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html

        https://newrepublic.com/article/176962/hamas-finances-funding-sources-palestinian-authority

        Over and over and over again Israel has tried to cut off as much funds as they can to the Palestinian Authority and civilians while funding Hamas and doing everything possible to keep them in power…

        You’ve got to ask yourself if you didn’t know this, how much else about this subject don’t you know about?

        And maybe if reading is a better path forward towards understanding than typing?

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        Most wars aren’t between an Occupier and the Occupied within an Apartheid State. Israel is directly responsible for the blockade of Gaza that has been more brutal than even the occupation, and the violent colonialism of the West Bank.

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          Ya it’s almost like consistently committing to and conducting operations to murder your neighbors for 20 years will lead them to engage in ways to mitigate those deaths.

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            Yeah, Israel has violently occupied Palestine since 1967. Popular Resistance to Occupation is inevitable when people’s rights, homes, and livelyhood are constantly threatened, taken, and destroyed

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              Small correction, Israel hasn’t occupied the Gaza strip since 2005. Over the course of 2004 & 2005 the withdrew behind the 1967 borders, and evicted several sizeable Jewish settlements and settlers at gunpoint. And ceased their military occupation of Gaza.

              And at the same time they withdrew from a handful of small settlements in the West Bank to show that they were serious about following a similar path across that significantly large chunk of territory.

              But the point is that this recent war and violence is not caused by an occupation of Gaza.

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                They withdrew the Gaza settlers into the West Bank and used the Oslo Accords to justify the ever expanding settlement of the West Bank

                The blockade and Israel’s repeated military offensives have had a heavy toll on Gaza’s essential infrastructure and further debilitated its health system and economy, leaving the area in a state of perpetual humanitarian crisis. Indeed, Israel’s collective punishment of Gaza’s civilian population, the majority of whom are children, has created conditions inimical to human life due to shortages of housing, potable water and electricity, and lack of access to essential medicines and medical care, food, educational equipment and building materials.

                In contrast, many prominent international institutions, organizations and bodies—including the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), the United Nations Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, UN General Assembly (UNGA), European Union (EU), African Union, International Criminal Court (ICC) (both Pre-Trial Chamber I and the Office of the Prosecutor), Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch—as well as international legal experts and other organizations, argue that Israel has occupied Palestinian territories including Gaza since 1967. While they acknowledge that Israel no longer had the traditional marker of effective control after the disengagement—a military presence—they hold that with the help of technology, it has maintained the requisite control in other ways.

                The Israeli imposed closure on Gaza began in 1991, temporarily, becoming permanent in 1993. The barrier began around Gaza around 1972. After the ‘disengagement’ in 2007, this turned into a full blockade; where Israel has had control over the airspace, borders, and sea. Under the guise of ‘dual-use’ Israel has restricted food, allocating a minimum supply leading to over half of Gaza being food insecure; construction materials, medical supplies, and other basic necessities have also been restricted. This has been a deliberate tactic of De-development.

                Conditions in Gaza before Oct 7th:

                2023 is ‘deadliest year’ for Palestinian children say human rights groups

                HRW Events of 2022

                HRW Events of 2023

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                  They withdrew the Gaza settlers into the West Bank and used the Oslo Accords to justify the ever expanding settlement of the West Bank

                  Two different leadership coalitions. The coalition responsible for pulling settlers out of Gaza lost power because of the massive failure that was. And the alternative coalition (still in power today btw) who advocated for increased settlements in Gaza and in the West Bank won power.

                  Look at the numbers between 2000-2005 on this chart. The growth (192k, 226k, 249k) over that 5-year span is congruent with the growth you’d expect from a slightly younger-than-average population and a small ingress of settlers. Over half of that growth occurred in the three biggest West Bank settlements established before the Gaza pullout. So certainly some settlers in Gaza likely relocated to established settlements in the West Bank but not a significant chunk. Additionally, look at the settlements they pull out of in Northern Samaria (in the West Bank). They did that to prove that pullout was a viable option. Yes those settlements were small, but there’s like 50 settlements smaller than the largest that they pulled out of.

                  And if you look at the biggest 10 settlements on that list, it makes up over half of the total population of Israeli settlers. And they’re all like 15 miles or less from the '67 border. It’s legitimately plausible for Israel to pull 50% of it’s settlers out of the West Bank and fully pull out of 85% of the land area of the West Bank in just a couple of months. And more importantly, there is an active political coalition attempting to do that in Israel. But every rocket, every suicide bomber, every organized rape, every hostage prevents them from being able to be a big force again politically in Israel; because they’re still seen as being responsible for the boondoggle that is Gaza.

                  You’re mistake (and the HRW’s mistake) is believing that the group of Israeli’s responsible for pulling out of Gaza is the same group responsible for expanding into the West Bank. They’re opposing groups. And as long as Gaza is non-peaceful; the group advocating for expanding into the West Bank is going to continue to win.

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    I was alive and politically active in 2004/2005. There was a legitimate belief that the pullout would be a blueprint for peace.