For more context: I already had the communism and lefty communites blocked. I’d consider myself middle-left of the political spectrum but personally don’t believe in some grand revolution saving us all. Most left communities on here seem to far out there for my personal taste at least. My comment is deleted but if you wanna see the post here’s the link.

  • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    40
    arrow-down
    11
    ·
    4 months ago

    So you block everything you don’t like, but you complain that people block you when they don’t like what you have to say? You do see the irony here right?

    • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      32
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      4 months ago

      There’s no irony there. There’s a difference between curating your own experience and others forcing censorship on you.

      • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        People can curate the experience they want on their community as well. Same thing really. They don’t have to content with low quality post that calls them in question with no substance over and over again.

          • timestaticOP
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            arrow-down
            6
            ·
            edit-2
            4 months ago

            I wish you’d differentiate between instance and community. I didn’t just get banned from that specific community but from the whole instance permanently without explanation. I mean I guess I don’t mind that much in retrospect but it did mildly annoy me since I like commenting and lemmy doesn’t have that much content to begin with compared to the likes of reddit.

            • MagicShel@programming.dev
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              4 months ago

              lol. You were blocked because they didn’t like your comment was getting upvotes? Idk, buddy. Good riddance, I’d say. I understand about the lack of content, though.

            • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              edit-2
              4 months ago

              That applies to instances, too - they should be also free to curate their own vibes, including saying “you are not welcome here”. Nobody here is entitled to the usage of an instance.

              The problem with lemmy .ml is on another level: transparency. Instead of actually telling users what they want/don’t want in their instance, like Hexbear for example correctly does, they keep pushing and pulling rule #1 (no bigotry - the reason why you were banned BTW) and rule #2 (be respectful) to justify every single action. It’s effectively lying to the users.

              • timestaticOP
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                4 months ago

                I agree with you and think if an instance communicates clearly what they are and what they want then I have no problem.

                BTW how do you no the reason why I’m supposedly banned when I don’t even know that.

                • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  BTW how do you no the reason why I’m supposedly banned when I don’t even know that.

                  Modlog.

                  It’s weird to think about it. It’s a great transparency tool, and yet made by the same group that struggles to handle users in a transparent way.

        • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          4 months ago

          When you create the experience of your community you are curating it for everyone else though, not just yourself which I think is the distinction.

          I don’t think it’s necessarily a big deal because fortunately Lemmy has lots of instances and communities so if you disagree with one you can just go to another one.

          • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 months ago

            When you create the experience of your community you are curating it for everyone else.

            Yes. Everyone else includes me, who’s tired of shitlibs posting low quality whining about leftists. One of the main reasons I got off Reddit.

        • timestaticOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          4 months ago

          I wish you’d differentiate between instance and community. I didn’t just get banned from that specific community but from the whole instance permanently without explanation.

          • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            7
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            4 months ago

            You do know the modlog is public right? You weren’t banned, you’re low effort comment was removed. Plus the distinction you’re trying to make between community and instance is moot. In fact it’s probably truer for an instance, the admins don’t have to pay, maintain, and assume some liability for your content if they don’t feel like it. They aren’t providing a transport layer.

            • timestaticOP
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              4 months ago

              Wait I checked and now im just banned from !memes@lemmy.ml but not from lemmy.ml as a whole. My comment wasn’t low effort tho. I was just mentioning how I dislike communist violent revolution fantasy getting posted over and over as “memes” when they aren’t ironic or satirical.

    • timestaticOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      10
      ·
      4 months ago

      I block it since I’m not here for revolutionary fantasy. I am not the second biggest lemmy instance. The arguments I’ve had with people from that community are barely worth my time and I don’t feel like seeing this type of content. You can block me, I don’t care. Users choose to see by their preference but relevant instances should have coherent rules and not just political agenda by whom they allow and block. That’s just my take on that tho!

      • erin (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        4 months ago

        ml stands for Marxist-Leninist. When anyone is allowed to make their own instance, and instances or users can defederate or block what they don’t want to see, why can’t an instance be political? That’s like saying “no political communities!” Just block them and move on, just as they can do the same. You commented in the memes community of a communist instance and got annoyed that you got banned for being anti-communist. Plenty of instances out there, they don’t all need to cater to every person.

        • Eldritch@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          Boiler plate comment

          Marxist Leninist aren’t communists. Or they wouldn’t be Marxist Leninist. They do however like to cosplay as communists. Often naming things that aren’t communist Communist. While I think the general proletariat were all aspirationally communist. Their leaders and the Vanguard party most certainly were not.

        • timestaticOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          Its just that ml mentions itself being a general lemmy instance. Their description on join-lemmy.org is “A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers”. I’m a FOSS and privacy enthusiast who likes Lemmy. I just happen to not like communism agenda pushed when I scroll through some memes. I definitely wouldn’t say I’m some uncivil person. Sucks for me that ml is the second largest instance and they have the biggest memes community.

          • erin (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            4 months ago

            Sure, if you let it bother you. If you care about the memes that much, ignore the stuff you don’t like, if you can’t stand it, find one of many other communities. I don’t think it’s on them, regardless of poor branding, when there’s so many other instances. No one is forcing you to engage in the comments of posts you don’t like.

            • timestaticOP
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              4 months ago

              I mean I feel like many or even most memes there are fine, just those few in between are annoying to me. I’m over it but I was still kinda annoyed initially

  • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    4 months ago

    My problem is the simping for dictators and dictatorships.

    Oh also the Revolution LARPing and the anti-electoralism.

    I find a lot of lefty communities around here (Lemmy in general) tick those boxes which means they’re a no from me. But I’d be super happy if someone linked one that didn’t tick those boxes.

    I straight up stopped searching for communities that advertise that their left on here due to them basically ticking those boxes mentioned above.

    • Eldritch@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      4 months ago

      Lemmy as a whole is pretty staunchly left and tolerant generally. Looking for things flagging themselves left here. Implies looking for the left of the left. Which ultimately leads to circle jerking and edgelord virtue signaling. It’s a bad time. Left can mean different things to different people. Drasticly so. If you consider yourself “left” look into some of their philosophies and see what resonates. Then look for communities based around that. You’ll likely have a much better time. And learn things in the process. Win win.

    • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      Yeah for real, I got sick of being gaslit eventually so I ended up just using my client to instance block some of the worst offenders and found similar communities on less extremist instances. Been a lot better since then.

    • timestaticOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      4 months ago

      Yeah I feel that… I like discussing novel ideas how things can be done different. I once had a longer discussion with one of the aforementioned users but I knew there was no point once they started denying mass starvation in the soviet union and the human rights infringements. I wish it could be different but I guess you gotta pick your poison whether or not to see these communities. Also I don’t get them claiming china being supposedly communist when its really not but oh well…

    • timestaticOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      You have me agreeing with you on that one!

  • marcos@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    I never managed to be blocked.

    I did have a post deleted explaining that a meme was from a spam account to somebody trying to understand the meme, based on the rule that disallows spam. But AFAIK, that’s all.

    Anyway, I’ve removed all ml communities from my list. It’s not worth interacting with the people there.

    • timestaticOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      4 months ago

      Honestly I’d agree with you if it wasn’t for the fact that sadly lemmy is still really small in terms of content and I like interacting with people. Since ml is like the second biggest community its mildly annoying but I guess you gotta pick your poison. Probably better just focusing on content from the other instances thats a bit less toxic tho.

      • OpenStars@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        Elsewhere I mentioned how Lemmy.ml is only the #5 instance, not #2. Here I’d like to add that even memes@lemmy.ml is not all that large.

        For one, outside of that instance there are MANY meme communities rather than concentrating all into one giant megalithic community subject to whatever authoritarian mods are in charge there (ironically there is far more “sharing” outside of the “communist” instance than inside it:-P though the developers of Lemmy do share their codebase and that much deserves credit).

        For another, take a look at the MAU - that stands for Monthly Active Users - and you’ll see its only <2/3rds the size of the largest community on Lemmy.World, plus there’s over a dozen additional communities that are larger than !memes@Lemmy.ml.

        So yes, you’ll need to spend more time curating your experiences here than on Lemmy.ml or Reddit, like you’ll need to subscribe to multiple memes communities rather than just one. Hopefully you’ll continue to contribute by posting in one of those rather than the tankie one, and make & keep them all the more active as a result of your participation:-).