They can prohibit whatever they want, but how enforceable is it? Does Nvidia intend to play whack a mole by checking for translation layers?
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Who said anything about heroes? Villains sometimes want to stop other villains, too. In fact, probably often.
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You took my comment too seriously, it was just a joke.
But you also singled out Intel. Corporations aren’t heroes in general and AMD is also there. And EU is depicted as the villain, although it’s implied it’s the hero in the context of the meme.spoiler
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ZLUDA originally only supported on Intel since it was designed by an Intel employee, but AMD hired him to make it work for AMD instead. So in a way Intel is somewhat important here.
Save us, EU. You’re our only hope. Sincerely, USA
Cries in britland
You are welcome to rejoin
Actually probably not. Not without major concessions. The pound will have to go which they will never accept unless they have absolutely no other choice
Why does the pound have to go?
Because countries that join nowadays have to adopt the Euro. Denmark, for example, joined when that was still allowed, so they still have their DK.
The concessions are the same as for any other EU member, which is fair
This keeps happening—can you lot make some laws for a change?
Edit: oh wait not like that
It’s cool I fixed it now.
America, moments after outlawing IVF
Just as an aside, I’m an American that emigrated to Canada. My province (BC) is currently passing a law to make one attempt at IVF free for everyone (starting midyear in 2025)… laws actually can be used for good.
In America, laws can also be used for good. Just not your good.
Yeah this is cool and all but how can it benefit the wealthiest people in the country more? ✊💦✊💦
I’m very happy to hear that at least some in the US understand what is being done to them
Yeah fuck this.
… What’s a translation layer?
I think it’s about translating cuda to ROCm instructions or something.
Got a Windows app you want to run on Linux? Wine and Proton are well known translation layers.
I guess Graphics Cards are similar. CUDA is basically the NVIDIA equivalent of .exe I think.
Cuda is an Nvidia specific method for using a graphics card to do computation (not just graphics), like physics simulations.
Translation layers would let you use software designed for other graphics cards to work with Cuda, or to let Cuda software work on other graphics cards
So nvidia designed something and they don’t want other companies to use it?
CUDA was there first and has established itself as the standard for GPGPU (“general purpose GPU” aka calculating non-graphics stuff on a graphics card). There are many software packages out there that only support CUDA, especially in the lucrative high-performance computing market.
Most software vendors have no intention of supporting more than one API since CUDA works and the market isn’t competitive enough for someone to need to distinguish themselves though better API support.
Thus Nvidia have a lock on a market that regularly needs to buy expensive high-margin hardware and they don’t want to share. So they made up a rule that nobody else is allowed to write out use something that makes CUDA software work with non-Nvidia GPUs.
That’s anticompetitive but it remains to be seen if it’s anticompetitive enough for the EU to step in.
If translation layer can be banned with EULA how is wine not dead yet? M$ loves Linux or what?
MS loves money. If Linux makes them money, great. If not, fuck it.
“…because it makes us money” could be put at the end of any slogan to make it 100% honest.
USA: Oh yeah ofcourse I understand
EU: Hmmmmmm
More like:
EU: Oh yeah of course I understand, but also, you need to follow the law.
I’m willing to bet that Linux is irrelevant to Microsoft. It doesn’t threaten them, Microsoft has it’s core business elsewhere
Their core business is hosting linux for other people at this point.
I give it about 10 years before the EU is invaded by the US after corporate lobbying
Or a couple of months if the EPP win the next EU elections.
I need context
Europeans People Party, large political party within the EU which is largely full of conservative right-wing folks with the german Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen at it’s top. She is also currently president of the European Commission and has been known to be involved in corruption and to favour company interests, as well as the rest of the fuckers in the EPP.
So I guess the context is: If EPP stays in power, that’s good for top-business-people, but bad for everyone else. Thereby detrimental for such competitive-practise-laws.
Europeans People Party, large political party within the EU which is largely full of conservative right-wing folks
First the EPP is center-right, not conservative right-wing.
So I guess the context is: If EPP stays in power, that’s good for top-business-people, but bad for everyone else.
Second there’s too much leftists’ bullshit already in EU member states and all that power vacuum created by key keep such as Angela Merkel leaving governments created all the right conditions for the US, Ukraine and Russia to start a war at the EU border that only benefits the USA and has a large economical impact on the EU.
First the EPP is center-right, not conservative right-wing.
As far as I can see it, they are conservative-right wing. It’s even clear from the first sentence of the Wikipedia article you posted further down:
with Christian-democratic,[4] liberal-conservative,[4] and conservative[5][6] member parties
Second there’s too much leftists’ bullshit already in EU member states
You mean like those competiveness laws discussed in this post?
that only benefits the USA
Sounds like a conspiracy myth to me. Feel free to elaborate.
Now imagine Microsoft banning the translation of DirectX to Vulkan. Could they do that? That would kill gaming on Linux in a snap.
Here’s the problem:
Doesn’t matter the country/countries. Due to bureaucracy and lobbying, this will take forever for anyone to get anything done. And by the time it’s done, something better will have appeared and will be using any and all loopholes present in whatever bill they pass to do the exact same shit that is happening now.
Nvidia: bans platform translation layers for CUDA
Meanwhile AMD: is forbidden from releasing an open source HDMI 2.1 driver supporting 4K@120hz because of HDMI Forums requirements.
DisplayPort gang?
Accidental DisplayPort guy checking in. I didn’t even know it was a thing until I bought my graphics card. It seems like I dummied my way into some good tech.
Does DP support CEC or ARC nowadays?
sadly not, but GPUs (at least those I used) do not support that over HDMI as well, which is kinda frustrating :/
I was thinking about home cinema, but good point
Can a EULA ban fair use? Google v Oracle might have something to say about this.
Probably depends on your country’s laws. Here in Estonia most EULAs aren’t valid because pressing accept on those isn’t legally binding.
“How dare you use software on your hardware,” says another worthless gaggle of bastard morons.
Just have Jensen Huang flop his dick out and say CUDA is an anti-competitive tactic. It wouldn’t be less obvious.
