• Nahvi@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Billionaires aren’t the ones that starve when the economy implodes.

    This kind of rhetoric is what makes moderates ambivalent about unions. Sure we support your goals but the side-effects of that cure are ten times worse than the disease itself.

    • Thanks to people who want to retain the status quo that economic crisis are handled by fucking the poor and bailing out the rich. That is not a law of nature btw. It is a choice made by both large american parties every time.

      The US could also increases taxes, seize assets from rich people and imprison tax evaders. With that money they could invest in infrastructure, schools, hospitals, renewable energies… That would bring the economy back on track and also help everyone to prosper.

      What you describe is the result of deliberate disaster capitalism, where crisis are embraced as an opportunity to steal from the poor and give to the rich.

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        both large american parties

        Whoa whoa whoa let’s not “both sides” this shit. There is one party doing this, and another party sometimes having to make concessions to them.

        The US could also increases taxes, seize assets from rich people and imprison tax evaders. With that money they could invest in infrastructure, schools, hospitals, renewable energies…

        Guess which party is working on all of this right now (minus the higher taxes part)?

        Hint: the answer is not “neither”

        • the US democrats are far right conservatives by most countries standards. You saw how they fiercly opposed the idea of a somewhat lefty candidacy and instead brought on Clinton, who is a neoliberal economist and war hawk and Biden who is also a neoliberal economist and has a strongly racist history.

            • I am not saying that “both sides” are equal and it doesnt matter what to vote. I am saying that the problems will not resolve as long as the democrats are not moving towards being an actual center/progressive party. So it needs the activism on the streets and in the companies, because there is no political solution available in the current US party system.

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                Why does it seem like you guys have never heard of primaries? Or democratic party elections?

                I stood in line to vote for my local reps who go to the national Dem party who decide what the party platform is and what to spend money on and who to support. Did you even know that was a thing?

                • How does that relate to the US democrats mostly having conservative/right wing positions? Also how do the primaries help you, when the US elections are significantly influenced by who can muster the most money in return for representing the interests of their money givers? Your constitutional court even argued, that bribing politicans is a form of protected speech.

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                    1 year ago

                    Ah I see, you’re not American so you literally don’t know.

                    General elections for us are binary. We vote for Democrats or Republicans or we throw away our vote. There’s no 3rd party.

                    Primary elections are where we determine the candidates that will be put forward for each party. This goes for President but also every other executive branch office, at the federal and state levels.

                    Internal party elections are where we decide the party reps who decide funding, advertisement, official party endorsements, etc.

                    Bernie lost the primary election because his core supporters have no idea any of these other races exist. They show up, barely, every 4 years to vote for president.

                    More centrist progressives like me show up every single election. We are constantly pushing our agenda up the chain.

                    Flighty Leftist voters don’t stand a chance until they consistently show up to push their agenda.