• PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    If you want to argue that the answer to Biden being too soft on Israel’s crimes is to let the guy who handed them East Jerusalem, The West Bank, and The Golan Heights on a silver platter get back into power, you’re either a covert Zionist agent, or an unwitting Zionist agent. Either way, you have no business lecturing about the moral course of action in this crisis.

  • Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works
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    Voting does sort of make you complicit, honestly.

    But guess what? Not voting also makes you complicit. So does voting in a way that has no chance of having an effect based on the current rules.

    Basically, existing as an eligible voter, at least in a country where voting isn’t rigged (so like, Russians are off the hook here, for example) makes you complicit in your government’s actions.

    That’s kind of a big point of being in a democratic society - we are all, every one of us, responsible for the actions of our government.

    And if you don’t like that responsibility, I get it, I totally sympathize, because I agree. I hate that responsibility, especially cause I know damn well I’m not qualified to make those decisions. But I still am responsible, and pretending I’m not doesn’t change that.

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      at least in a country where voting isn’t rigged (so like, Russians are off the hook here, for example)

      So we’re all off the hook, then?

      That’s kind of a big point of being in a democratic society

      You don’t live in a democratic society.

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          2 months ago

          Everywhere

          Tell me where you live and I’ll show you how anti-democratic the society you live in really is.

          Up for this challenge?

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              the anti-democratic nature of germany.

              Gee… what a challenge! I’m going to be completely stumped by this one, eh?

              But just before I do the little surrender dance, we have to… you know - dot the i’s and get the paperwork right, okay?

              You did get to vote on who it is that manages you at your job, right?

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                  Oh, not at all.

                  We are absolutely getting to the heart of the matter… and no amount of liberal pearl-clutching is going to change that.

                  I take it the answer is a definite no?