If he can lay down a four-belt balancer from memory, you are the side hoe to his Factorio addiction.
Her: "He’s thinking about other women now…isn’t he?
Him: “If I rebuilt my rocket control units factory, I could reach a rocket launch every 4 minutes vs 4.5. Then if I optimize my platform in space…”
I play Satisfactory instead, but I felt that in my soul.
We may pray to different gods, but the factories must grow.
How they hell would anyone not know the difference? It’d be like not knowing the difference between Taylor Swift and Madonna.
Most people don’t have a clue. I remember mentionning the word byzantine at the dinner table when I was a teenager and was told “you play too many games and read too many books, this is reality, there’s no such thing as a byzantine”.
When I showed them the wikipedia page about it, “it’s not because it’s on the internet that it’s true”. Yet here we are, in 2024, where they are glued to facebook believing some of the wildest things.
I know I learned about them twenty years ago but I don’t recall anything about either of them anymore, so that’s how I can’t know the difference anyway.
It helps that They Might Be Giants wrote a song about it. Constantinople was the capital of what we now call "The Byzantine Empire’’ (at the time they just called it ‘The Roman Empire’) Istanbul was the capital of The Ottoman Empire. And as everyone knows. Istanbul was once Constantinople.
Constantinople was also the capitol of the ottomen empire, the name change came after ww1, when attaturk Formed Turkey
But do they know the difference between Istanbul and Constantinople?
That’s nobody’s business but the Turks.
Why’d they change it?
I can’t say.
Maybe people just liked it better that way?
Map man map man map map map men men men
I know what the difference is and don’t play those map video games.
But I do like shoving little soldiers around the table top. And the only thing historic about those is that most of them are no longer being produced.
What is the difference?
The difference between what?
Those map games and shoving little plastic soldiers over the table top?
Those map games are huge, having many armies on the map and managing your state. While shoving soldiers over the table top usually just involves your one army with no state management at all and the map just consisting of the game you are playing.Our context is the tweet in the post and that mentions the difference between the Ottoman and Byzantine empires.
The context is also my comment you replied to. Didn’t know what difference you meant.
To make it simple: the Orthodox Christian Byzantine Empire was the eastern Roman Empire that continued on after the western Roman Empire went under.
The Ottoman Empire is the Muslim Empire that took over after the Byzantine Empire got conquered.
I bet you would love some hardcore strategy games then.
The most hardcore “map game” I’m playing is Total War (Warhammer these days). I do love me some Starcraft though.
I do think that counts. Medieval 2 had both byzantines and turks in almost perfectly opposite colors, purple vs green
Oh right, there was that one also. Somehow completely forgot about Medieval 2 (was more of a Rome player).
But my knowledge of their existence comes more from the fact that I was dumb enough to take Latin in school. We had to translate letters by the German ambassador (Busbecq) to the Ottoman Empire from when he was sent to
ByzantiumConstantinopleKostantiniyyeIstanbul (the wiki-article about the names of the city alone is fascinating).
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While I love the Total War combo of strategic map play + in the field tactical control, I think there are a good deal of map games even more technically complex, but they are incredibly niche.
Starcraft is an RTS with no real grand strategy, I don’t think that counts as a ‘map game’.
I know that they are quite different, my point was that I don’t play those more complex games and usually prefer other genres. StarCraft was an example of that while limiting it to the Strategy genre as a whole.
Sorry, I didn’t fully read all of the comments you’d made before, and my inner nerdsplaining came out.
That and I’ve been awake for… 36 hours now? Hooray for incredible pain.
That being said, StarCraft is great!
Oh, I was just answering the comment, didn’t realize I made the “limiting to strategy as a whole” remark in a different one.
Well, after 36 hours it’s well about time to finally get some sleep.
I was finally able to sleep!
Torn and dislocated tendons suck.
Big maps, little movement, lots of stuff to track; Hearts Of Iron is made for folks like you and me.
Nah, a 4’x6’ table is a big enough map for me most days.
I’m more of a Total War gamer than something like Heart of Iron anyways. Or better yet: some good old Starcraft, if we limit it to strategy alone.
