• Corhen@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    I mean, the options seem to be “this man is mentally ill, he needs to enter adult conservatorship” or “this man is an adult, who made a contract, and is being held to a contract”

    He doesnt seem to be so far gone he needs a conservator, so his contracts are valid.

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      14 days ago

      there needs to be some sort of space between “this person needs a conservator and can’t have any rights” and “this is a logical rational person who can contractually give away 5 million dollars because he’s filled with religious delusions”

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        14 days ago

        It sucks, but there is a lot of precedent in the US for “you are allowed to be as stupid with your money as you want, as long as you’re sane.”

        He may have delusions around his religion or beliefs, but he has the rights to have those delusions and beliefs, and if he wants to place bets on his beliefs because he holds them that strongly then he can. If someone else spots him as a mark and takes advantage of him, sure it was dumb of him, and they may not be in the cleanest moral area, but that’s America, learn your lesson and move on.

        You go to New York and some guy sells you a newspaper that helps raise money for charity and the homeless for $5 and you believe him then find out it’s a free paper all over the city, that’s life.

        We can protect you when you don’t know any better, but when you bet everyone in the room that you can fly and you can’t? That’s a hard bet to make buddy, and a harder bill to pay.

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          14 days ago

          The reality is he is an older American and 5 million dollars is a lot, it’s not a 5 dollar bill. This is exploitation and society is only allowing it because he’s a right wing religious idiot.

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            14 days ago

            The guy held a contest for $5M. Why are you defending him for not paying out? He is supposed to be credible, no?

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              14 days ago

              No one of even mild to low intelligence thinks Mike Lindell is a credible person.

              This is a person who had a positive attitude and made a lot of money making pillows, then got older. He is religious and religion and aging affected his brain, especially because he’s clearly not that bright to begin with as evidenced by his religious beliefs. Plenty of people do well in society without being that intelligent because they have a positive attitude.

              Stripping this person of 5 million dollars is a form of laissez-faire elder abuse wrapped in the artifice of polite society and it’s blatantly vile.

              Just because he’s a disgusting right-wing religious idiot doesn’t mean that elder abuse is acceptable, and intelligent people in society should have the decency to prevent this sort of thing from happening.

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                14 days ago

                Mmmm except whatever shibboleths you may utter against “right-wing religious idiots”, comments like yours help those idiots and others like them by giving them a sort of ‘cognitive plausible deniability’ to get up to whatever evil shit they’ve been getting up to and worse.

                Like it’s so obviously minimizing real evil - the evil UNDERNEATH shit like this ‘innocent little contest’, genius - under a shield of “d’aww shucks those pesky white nationalists are up to their hijinx again, those silly knuckleheads”.

                So in that context, you talking about ‘disgusting right-wing idiots’ comes off as a real fellowkids moment for you.