No one can mention any real life examples of both theories and that is because they are fictional theories.

  • Socialism assume that companies could work with no centralized ownership which is impossible in real life, it’s like the believers of this theory ignore all the human psychology and assume the perfection in the world.

  • Anarcho-Capitalisim assume that it’s possible to live in 100% autonomous society while ignoring all the big issues(unfair laws, corruption in law and protection agencies, …etc)

  • inlandempire@jlai.luEnglish
    142·
    3 months ago

    A simple way to debunk your claims is to simply look at real life examples that show it actually exists, and hope the goalposts will not move ala “but it wasn’t large scale so it doesn’t count”

    1 - SCOP is a type of company in France where employees are owners of the company. This is not yet socialism although it shares the philosophy/ideals. There is no hierarchy in a SCOP. Duralex, french makers of glassware just recently changed their structure to become a worker owned SCOP. Motion Twin, the company behind the game Dead Cells has been a SCOP for years. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative

    2 - In the capitalist world it is indeed hard to emancipate from the interconnection with everyone and everything, which is why revolutionaries’ main goal is to destroy capitalism. You can’t envision a different type of organisation for society because capitalism has become so prevalent it tries to impose itself as the only solution. Look for smaller scale examples of autonomous, self sufficient communities, I’m not talking about uncontacted native tribes, there are, all over the world, tons of examples of small communities trying to rethink how we can restructure society away from the capital. Extrapolate from these examples and you’ll have a glimpse of how this could work at a larger scale.

    • ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      36·
      3 months ago

      Listing your argument flaws before your argument does not it make it less flawed, so I ask again:

      Any real life examples of socialist countries?

      • inlandempire@jlai.luEnglish
        71·
        3 months ago

        Well I mean, that specific question you’re asking should have been included in your original post then, and could easily be a Google search. I’m not going to waste time doing your job of educating yourself, when I spent time to address in good faith specific points in your original post

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states

        • ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
          18·
          3 months ago

          Not wasting time would be mentioning one successful socialist country in good faith and actually proving the mistakes in my statement, wasting time would be just talking 2 or 3 companies that happen to follow some of your principles and arguing that the whole world should follow this infamous companies.