• logos@sh.itjust.works
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    18 days ago

    “You have a duty to demand the highest safety standards… and [ensure] that ‘speak up’ in fact means speak up, not shut up, as it is meant all too often.”

    Tell that to Snowden, Assange, Manning etc.

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          17 days ago

          Haha no. He selectively edited Manning’s stuff to frame the US Army long before 2016.

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            17 days ago

            “Frame” the US Army…? Bro the great satan doesn’t need any framing, its sins are dripping from its fangs and claws.

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              16 days ago

              Then why did he edit videos he used to accuse the Army of war crimes? If they don’t need to be framed, why fuck with the evidence?

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        17 days ago

        Fuck Snowden too, no respect for him running to Russia. If you think it’s your moral obligation to break the law, you should be willing to take the consequences. You can’t run off to an enemy state that does much worse things than what you were willing to break the law to expose. I have zero doubt Snowden is a traitor and gave Russia whatever they wanted. It’s possible he started off well meaning, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he did it for Russia all along. His original intentions don’t matter now either way, he had a high clearance and Russia now knows everything he learned with that clearance beyond even the scope of his “whistleblowing”.

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          17 days ago

          Maybe don’t throw your whistleblowers in a jail and let them rot for life, and you will avoid defections to another country.

          Can you blame the guy to not want to die in a dark cell for showing the world that your own government is keeping a lot of tabs on you without your knowledge?

          He tried to go to other countries, but none of them wanted to take him in except Russia because of what he knew.

          So it’s either die in a cell in the US, or live a somewhat free man in Russia.

          The choice is clear.

          So demand that your government do better and get behind the people that shows you how your government fucks you over.

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            16 days ago

            There would have been a lot of pressure to get him released and would have kept what he revealed talked about and more pressure to end that as well. He’s just a little bitch that wanted to play hero and or a Russian agent.

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          17 days ago

          I have noticed that if you say anything bad about snowden on reddit or now the Fediverse, you quickly get down-voted a lot. I am starting to think this is coordinated somehow.

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            17 days ago

            He’s a whistleblower. Corrupt corpos/countries hate whistleblowers. Reddit/Lemmy users hate corrupt corpos/countries. There.

            It’s as easy as that, no need to bring out conspiracies.

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              17 days ago

              You are probably right. It’s just the speed and amount that got me thinking otherwise. Lemmy is a lot more popular then I thought.

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            17 days ago

            Deploy our great bot army!

            For what purpose, Sir?

            Downvote any post on any social media platform that is critical of Snowden!

            As you command, SIr!