• arymandias@feddit.de
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    7 months ago

    If your blood isn’t boiling yet from what the west is sponsoring in Gaza, you can have some fun learning of what Belgium (and the US) did in the Congo after they “left”.

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    Well, party because of colonization, slavery, and genocide (because cultural genocide counts as genocide), partly because of geo-political meddling, but also massive corruption, coups and an pan-African oligarchy that installed African protectionism 2.0 (or Afro-Reaganomics 1.0, take your pick), ensuring ordinary Africans can’t do any international business without the government holding their dick - as well as the foreign businesses dick. This in turn means only the big boys get to play, like multinationals, because lumps of money gets fed to end up in Cayman island bank accounts.

    To blame Europe today is stupid, because it not only serves to deter whatever support common Europeans (I.e not the elite) could give to Africans in diaspora, but it also enables corrupt African officials, who hold speeches about how they criticise the west, only for them to go to some backroom deal with eastern AND western multi-nationals, who really want to exploit Africans, and ofc they’ll be allowed - because of the affirmationed Cayman island bank accounts.

    Also, the “employment agencies” in Africa have 50/50 chance of being slave operations - because slavery never disappeared, it just got more “official”, and it’s also been common in Africa for thousands of years.

    But yeah, history is cherry picked for the sake of “owning” people in debates and discourse. Again; it only helps to take away the spotlight from African officials, but also: we can’t ever ignore what effect colonization, slavery and genocide has on not only nations, but geographical areas.

    This has been nuance. You may hate and downvote me now.

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      7 months ago

      If you’re insist on nuanced and gray toned conversation on Lemmy, you’re going to have a bad time. You got away with it this time; don’t let it become a habit.

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    Similarly, I love when Europeans complain about the Americas having no distinct culture or ancient structures when they kinda killed and burned the ones that existed here for thousands of years.

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      WTF are you talking about? The Europeans that “killed and burned” the natives mostly stayed, they call themselves Americans now. Look at a map of America at the time of the revolution, and you’ll see there was a lot of killing and displacing natives after the USA’s independence. Don’t blame this on modern day Europeans, blame this on your ancestors (assuming you’re american).

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    Most of Africa’s nations are younger than 30 years. Several African countries still pay taxes to France. Nearly every African country doesn’t have sovereign control over their natural resources. So Ya, not to even mention the millions of people stolen from their countries. Africa is poor purely because of outside influences

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      7 months ago

      The other side of that debate is that … the outside influence could work with Africa to make the continent self sufficient and capable on its own. Several studies and research has shown that if properly set up and organized, the African continent has more than enough resources to produce its own food supply, clean water supply and energy production.

      Unfortunately, instead of the outside world helping Africa to get to this point … the world instead uses Africa as just another place to exploit and make money out of. In the short sighted vision of the first world … it’s more lucrative to make a bunch of money now by taking advantage of poor dying people than it is to help them become productive members of the global economy.

      It’s a prime example of how as a civilization we build and maintain our world on exploitation, coercion and death

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      Africa is poor purely because of outside influences

      This is simplistic and naive to the point it feels like propaganda.

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        Your view is going to be unpopular with people here. Most on Lemmy would rather blame the outsiders for problems in Africa. However, I don’t see anyone mentioning China investing hundreds of millions into infrastructure of African countries and attempting to lift many African countries our of poverty only for these countries to remain where they were. At some point it becomes hard to continue blaming hundreds or dozens of years old events for the current situation when the current people contribute to the presently poor state of things.

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          You are literally voicing the white nationalist “honorary whites” and the “model minorities” that pits Asian cultures and communities against African cultures and communities. To simplify the African continents experience with colonial exploration to Asias is laughable at best and out right racist at worst.

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            You must be imagining something because I’m simply stating a fact of a event that has been occuring and observed. If you’re projecting some racial issues onto that - that seems like a problem you’ve gotta deal with yourself.

            I don’t know what you’re on because I’ve not mentioned whites or Asians at all. It seems you’ve got some repressed anger you’re projecting at my statement of fact.