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    6 months ago

    Yeah, it looks pretty. But… I dunno. It wasn’t what was filmed at the time, and I sort of like that. What we are seeing is gaps filled in and made up by computers, a fiction to make us happy, no more truth than in the original.

    But yeah, still cool even if not strictly history.

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      6 months ago

      I mean, 60fps from 18fps. That’s what 42 frames per second “interpolated”. That means two thirds of this, as content, are inferred rather than being primary evidence.

      Using the terms “low quality” and “high quality” are odd too. Subjective modernisms. Sure, that’s fine when denoting something purely as entertainment, but it doesn’t hold up as fact.

      I don’t know why this irks me so much, I guess it shouldn’t.

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        6 months ago

        I think you’re right to be wary of it. It’s like AI colorization of photos. They tend to be much more desaturated than ones done by professionals. Great colorists take the time to research materials and fashions and make informed guesses about how things should look. When something automated by AI it can be much more inaccurate since no research was done.

        I would imagine the same pitfalls could happen with a video like this. It’s cool to see the results, but I agree it shouldn’t be presented as anything more than an artistic re-interpretation.

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          Yeah I once saw a “colorization” done by AI from a photo from the early 1900s or something, it was a photo from a house and some people in front of it, Russia or Ukraine somewhere.

          The thing is that the photo that was used was in fact a color photo that they turned black and white and then gave it to the AI. The AI used very muted colors, a little beige a little dark green - colors you would expect from a photo of that time and region. In the original you could see, that the colors where actually very bright and plentiful, the house was a bright yellow not beige, the green fence was not dark green but bright green, the accents on the house were not brown but red. The people in the AI colorized picture had black, white, dark blue clothes, a man had a brown hat, in the original they wore blue dresses, yellow blouses, the hat was red and so on.

          Of course you can extrapolate some things but the original photo was so colorful, these people clearly painted the house bright on purpose and they wore very bright clothes but the re-colorization was so much less colorful and it gave a wrong impression of the reality what was photographed. Of course the old film wasn’t perfect and the colors maybe were also a little off - but it showed how many different colors were present in the original.

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      6 months ago

      What we are seeing is gaps filled in and made up by computers, a fiction to make us happy, no more truth than in the original.

      Romantic, but lemme introduce you to smartphone photography!

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        Not sure what that’s got to do with this… I mean you are right, there’s a lot of editing going on with smartphone images, but procedural and untentional. The current scandal over the princess of Wale’s clearly photoshopped family portrait is indicative.

        But just because one technology messes with things doesn’t provide an excuse for that to happen across the board.

        And I’m not being romantic, I’m talking about the veracity of primary historic documentation vs the need for someone to see something in colour at 60fps.

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          Most pictures are postprocessed automatically nowadays. Beauty filters, pixel binding, HDR…

          Multiple layers and filters which distort ‘reality’.

          And I think you are being romantic by trying to preserve a form of originality, while technology itself has never done anything else than alter our perception of the world.

          As an example: There’s a good reason why many kids might have thought that grandpa’s reality looked black and white back then haha

          How much something resembles reality in this case is subjective.

          Some might even argue the AI footage looks closer to the truth than the original file.