• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      Someone in the govt got a old Ukranian dude to speak to the parlement, and they all applauded him for fighting Russia in WW2, forgetting that the people who faught Russia in WW2 were the Nazis.

      They had accidentally invited a literal Nazi to speak, and applauded him for it.

      • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        Canadian here. Minor correction: he didn’t speak, but he was invited as a Ukrainian “hero” by the speaker of the house (a member of the sitting elected party). He was applauded - twice - for his “service”. Including by Ukrainian president zelensky.

        The only ‘defense’ I can offer is that our prime minister had no input on the matter, and Hunka’s Nazi service came out after the fact. Canada does not support fascism or Nazism…

        But it’s a bad look, no matter how you cut it…

          • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works
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            1 year ago

            I agree that silence is complicity, but that only applies if you know there’s something worth being silent about, no?

            In this case, the PM had no input because the speaker doesn’t have to ask permission to invite people from his constituency. So it falls to the speaker to validate his invitees. As such, PM has no input, but also no more fault than anyone else told to clap for the “Ukrainian hero” in this scenario… Is my understanding

            • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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              1 year ago

              so is the Canadian House and PM office that incompetent that noone knows how WWII went?

              It is a disgrace for the House and the PM ehose office did not care to inform themselves, when clearly doing something with a foreign policy context.

              • SilentStorms@lemmy.ca
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                1 year ago

                That’s not how our parliament works. The amount of people calling for an end to the speaker’s independence is concerning.

                The speaker’s job is to uphold decorum of parliament. This one spectacularly failed to do that, and resigned as he should. That doesn’t mean we should make it a partisan position.

                • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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                  1 year ago

                  I never talked about parisan positions or whatever. I expect both the house and the presidents office to have staff looking into some more details about things and raising the issue with the respective position, if it could be in violation of values of the respective institution or the country in general.

                  That does not involve any change of authority and i struggle to imagine that there weren’t staff people raising these issues beforehand. So i think it to be more plausible that their voice was ignored by the speaker and president, or the information was deliberately not passed on to them.

                  Either reason, lack of background check, ignorance by the political leaders or holes in the communications chain, speak of general problems in the organization that need to be adressed. These issues are specific to organizations and it doesnt matter whether it is a political party, a governmental institution, private business or NGO.