Everytime I see a bottlecap on the bottle in the ocean, I get so happy with this super good solution.
That’s where a bottle deposit system could come in.
(Recycling rate actually means collection rate, but who gives a hoot.)
A bit outdated, in the Netherlands small plastic drink bottles and aluminum cans are now also part of the deposit system.
The current implementation is terrible though, the collection machines are often a smelly sticky mess due to aluminum cans leaking their contents all over. 🤢
Austria joined the plastic bottle money back gang recently
its so new that some people dont have any plan and throw them away like normally
edit: same rate as germany but not compatiblebut not compatible
A pan-European deposit system would be a sign of true integration. And it wouldn’t even need all the countries to work, if Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Germany, and Austria could harmonize their iconography, the collected containers, and payout amount, that would already be fantastic.
Even the drinks industry should be a fan of that.
I’m from Norway. We have been recycling since the eighties, like alot. This is how you solve the problem, I totally concur. So when cola, and the likes, release tethered-bottlecaps, it’s a non-solution. It’s vitue signaling. They should bank-roll a recycle infrastructure in countries that don’t have it. That’s the real solution, but they will not do it.
This does not count the caps coming back, to be fair
True but the caps are tethered now, so in any country with a deposit system they will most likely be returned.
The complaint of the person above me was that instead of throwing the cap in the sea, people now supposedly throw the entire bottle in the sea. (When I write it out like this, that sounds like complete nonsense … Those same people previously might have thrown away the entire bottle too).
Ah, that would be quite the odd result of these tethers
“Let me just lob this cap to the se- whoops there goes the whole bottle damn”
Ah damn, my cola!
They should just have a longer thin bit of plastic connecting them. Most I use it’s too close and for viscous drinks it pools in the lid and drips on your face.
Typically I break off one of the tabs to make them more flexible. I’m not a lid-loser when they are detachable anyway though. If I drop it, I pick it up.
Lid-loser, what an insult ahahaha
Ok, I get the whole waste argument for these, but they’re very annoying and who was just tossing the caps on their own in the first place? Isn’t the whole point of buying a bottle to have a resealable container? If you’re just going to huck the cap then why not just buy a can?
I don’t think I’ve ever thrown away a cap seperately from the bottle and it isn’t because of any environmental concern. If the bottle is empty then I don’t want to carry around 2 pieces of trash so the cap goes back on the bottle. If the bottle still has something in it then I don’t want to spill it so the cap goes back on the bottle. There is no situation I can think of where it wouldn’t be more inconvenient to throw them away seperately.
I get that there was a problem with the caps but I still don’t understand how that problem occured without people actively going out of their way to cause it.
Most litter isn’t there because the original owner accidentally lost it, it’s thrown out on purpose. You’re right with the old system not all plastic bottles were thrown out with the cap removed, but some were. And in general, cleaning up the big part is easier than cleaning up the small part. I don’t know the science of how big a difference it makes, I don’t know if it is worth the inconvenience but even though your logic sounds very logical,stray bottle caps was big enough a problem for the eu to want to find a solution.
Oh, I agree. I’ve seen the reports and the benefit the change has had. The part I just don’t get is why the stray bottle caps were a thing to begin with. What causes someone to throw out a bottle seperate from the cap? That’s the part that doesn’t make sense to me.
You seriously underestimate how actively destructive humans are. Was about to say I’m positive people separate them anyhow, even if I don’t have evidence, but this comment exists, so here: https://ani.social/comment/10245094
I mean, I’d probably seperate them too while using the bottle just because it seems annoying to use a bottle with the cap still on it. But I’d still be putting the cap back on the bottle before I toss it anyways because doing anything else would be more work. Its basically just reflex to put the cap back on the bottle as soon as I’m done drinking from it to prevent spils if there’s still something in it or just so I’m not also carying a cap around if it’s empty.
Interestingly, the amount av littered bottle caps on the beaches of Sweden has increased since these were introduced. Source in Swedish.
One data point does not make a statistic.
Just yoink it aside and it will stick. It’s not rocket science.
idk I always managed to recycle bottles with the caps on before, these tethered caps are a pain in the arse, so I rip them off of bottles I reuse :|
I wish we didn’t need them because people acted like adults…
Seems like a lazy workaround so companies can say they totally solved the problem.
Oddly enough, some of my favourite beverage companies switched to different packaging just to avoid having tether their caps
When these first came out I took a minute to figure out how I could use these to my advantage. And currently, I find them easier than caps that come off
Im happy that we have these, the environment is way better without loose caps everywhere. But i gotta say, with some bottles im still struggling. Dont get me wrong, i wouldnt go back, it’s just difficult sometimes to screw them back on.
Just screw it backwards a little, it’ll go “click” and it’s ready to be screwed on in one turn
I’m quite glad this crap hasn’t made it to Switzerland, yet.
Though small, plastic bottle caps and lids contribute significantly to Europe’s nearly 26 million tonnes of plastic waste generated yearly. Much of this waste becomes marine litter, with plastics making up approximately 80% of the debris in our oceans.
I know you don’t yet have oceans in Switzerland, but that bit of discomfort is worth it, imho. If you don’t like it, get a glass (hori or verti, your choice) or your trusty Sigg.
It’s not just that, the tethered caps are usually redesigned versions of their untethered ancestors. As such, they often use less material than the original version, making them cheaper in the long run.
Or I’ll just continue to rip them off as I do when in Germany.
Eh, it’s alright. Some companies do it better than others.
The ones that do it well are the ones where you can easily rip it off.
They do it in Switzerland too.
Nobody would want an extra production line for such an small unimportant market
I just opened a bottle of coke and it didn’t have it. The cap also has a swiss flag and it says “Swiss made”, so they seem to have a extra production line already. But I guess it will be coming to smaller brands.
Migros-Sprecherin Estelle Hain hält fest, man sei von den Lieferanten darüber informiert worden, dass die alten Deckel in Zukunft nicht mehr hergestellt würden. «Wir müssen diese Anpassung daher auch auf unsere Produkte anwenden, und diese erfolgt bei all unseren Eigenmarken mit Ausnahme der Tetra-Packungen.» Zu den bekannten Migros-Eigenmarken gehört beispielsweise das Mineralwasser Aproz.
