• andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun
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    1 year ago

    The cover photo is a jet plane but remember, US$140,000/year is the threshold they’re quoting in the article so the reality is more like a decent car or two and a house in a nicer area will drop you into that range.

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      1 year ago

      1% of the world’s population is 80,000,000 people.

      There is too much variance in a population that large to make any reasonable statements or suggest adjustments.

      We already know that people living on pennies per day aren’t the problem.

      • P1r4nha@feddit.de
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        1 year ago

        But shouldn’t it be easier to adjust the lifestyle of 80 million people rather than 8 billion?

        And there are a few easy ones almost everyone in the 1% can chip in: reduce meat consumption, don’t fly, buy local and don’t buy single use items

        • nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN@lemmings.world
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          1 year ago

          The problem here is that this research works from a Capitalist understanding of responsibility. That is to say that Besos is responsible for the emissions of Amazon, musk for space x, etc. Which means absolutely nothing. It’s a bullshit number.

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            1 year ago

            How else would you account for it? Am I responsible for 0.001% of Amazon’s CO2 emissions because I order sometimes from them?

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                1 year ago

                Poor Besos cannot decide what and how he delivers. He just needs to deliver to anybody who posts an order on the website someone put up on the internet. Kinda like Santa?

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                  1 year ago

                  He can decide, and his middle managers can decide, and you can also decide by choosing to shop from somewhere else.

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                    1 year ago

                    How do I know which shop is the best? I don’t. Neoliberal fantasies only work with an informed consumer, just like democracies only work with educated voters.

                    That’s why you can’t make consumers responsible for the emissions the suppliers emit.

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                1 year ago

                I don’t really have knowledge nor control over how green Amazon’s delivery is. If you shift responsibility to a party that cannot make well-informed decisions, you kind of end up with the mess we currently have, no?

                The whole idea of money not having a memory is a huge scheme of capitalists to get out of any kind of responsibility.

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                  1 year ago

                  Amazon has the best logistics infrastructure of any company in the world. It is literally the most efficient system of moving goods ever known to mankind.

                  You are responsible for the carbon footprint of things you purchase, yes. This is why things like carbon taxes with dividends are such good ideas.

                • nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN@lemmings.world
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                  You are the person to set in motion the apparatus necessary to accomplish the task that you wanted to be accomplished.

                  Yes you live in this late stage capitalist hellscape with the rest of us, but that doesn’t absolve you from being critical and making the best decisions in it.

                  • P1r4nha@feddit.de
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                    1 year ago

                    The point is that the decision can’t be good because no company discloses the environmental impact of a single product. So even if I had choices, I can only choose based on price. My only hope is that efficient logistics are also cheaper and better for the environment.