• henfredemars@infosec.pub
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    11 hours ago

    I’m glad that they have the guts to deal with this massive distraction. In the States, school is more about free childcare than learning, so I understand it but disagree that phones are allowed.

    • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
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      3 hours ago

      Hey now, we’re all not smart. Sweden makes plenty of garbage decisions that you really should not copy

  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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    10 hours ago

    honestly i hate this, it’s such a heavy-handed way of handling the symptom rather than the root issue

    we should be teaching kids how to manage their phone use, instead of just letting the phones control them

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      9 hours ago

      I’d say managing their phone use includes not using them at school; it’s not like they can’t use them outside.

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        9 hours ago

        and what happens when they leave school? what will they have learned?

        it’s just the same nonsense as keeping candy to the weekends: rather than building a healthy relationship to the thing, you restrict it and alienate people from it, so when they do have access to it they gorge while they can.

        How about instead of that; we actually talk to kids about how it can affect them negatively, how it benefits them, how the negatives can be minimized and the positives maximized, and to voluntarily not use it when they shouldn’t?

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          4 hours ago

          Maybe they learned, wow i can go a full hour without looking at that screen. Or maybe they actually enjoyed a topic in class and then used the phone to google more about it. Maybe during class they made a real life friend and decided to play with them after school after texting their parents for permission.

          Many kids are far too young and inexperienced to understand how valuable that free education really is in public school. I don’t mind minimizing phone use to help them get the most of it.

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          8 hours ago

          Have you ever talked to kids? Do you think just explaining it will make them voluntarily not use their phones during class? I’m not opposed to talking to them about it, in fact I do think it’s good and necessary. But you can’t assume they are just going to stop using them.

          Why do we ban smoking indoors, if people already know it’s bad and it negatively affects the people around them? Well, because most people don’t care and do it anyways. And that’s adults.

          What parents and teachers should do is give kids alternatives on their free time, like toys, books, and making them socialize, so that they learn there is more to life than screens. But in class they should be learning, and I’m sure any teacher nowadays can tell you how bad phones are for kids’ attention.

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      8 hours ago

      I partially agree, we need to teach kids how to use their phones (and the Internet) responsibly, but you also don’t need a phone in school. There literally is no need for it, yet somehow people scream as if I’m trying to remove air. It’s a phone, you can perfectly well go without it for a couple of hours per day and if you can’t then I think you just made your own point about responsible phone use.

      No, phones won’t help stop bullying. If anything, with social media, it’ll make it worse

      No, in case of a medical emergency you don’t need a phone, there are adults with phones near by (your teacher) who can call for help when needed.

      The only exception I so far heard was about apps monitoring blood sugar levels. Give those kids a special pass but even then, phone on mute and don’t touch it unless it’s for your diabetes

      I know this may sound radical but schools are places to learn, not to doom scroll or TikTok