The word “Master Race” is clearly equivalent to terms which were used by Nazis and so are today’s far right wing and alt-rights.
There are other communities which created similar narratives, especially from the 4chan side, and I think the origin of “PC Master Race” comes from there.
I actually agree… the name does make me uncomfortable :I
So don’t subscribe to the community
well that’s not really the point… say a jewish person (or a member of any group persecuted by the ““master race””) expresses discomfort with the term being used (even jokingly), If you tell that person to just leave the community then that means their discomfort does not matter and there is no interest in listening to their issues in this community.
And in all honesty I wouldn’t want to be a part of a community that acts like that
Ignornace hardly ever helps anyone.
Total non-issue
Because?
“Master Race” will still be referring to this kind of “We are over everything, because our race is over everything” narrative.
Which is basicly the Linux community in a nutshell. We all see ourselves as superior
Which is part of Consumerism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumerism
Why do you think this using racist language is a non-issue?
You realize that Linuxmasterrace is the parody of penguins feeling superior to other right and you fell for it by blowing it out of proportions?
I’m not familiar with the history of the sub, could you elaborate a bit more please?
thats imho all there is to it.
Fair enough, thanks 🙏
To give a bit of context: there have been similar discussions in the computer science community in recent years. Two examples are the master-slave paradigm in networking and the default git branch which used to be the “master” branch.
I see similar arguments here than in the aforementioned discussions, ranging from “non-issue”, over “language forms reality”, to “respect marginalized groups”.
The origin of pcmr is a video by zero punctation.
Ok, my mistake, but does this change the fact that the term still characterizes structural racism? Also, due to the nature of anonymity, we cannot know much about the motivations of any particular person on the internet. 4chan and alt right are exactly where you least expect them to be.
This reeks of thought policing. If language doesn’t contain the “bad words” you can’t think about it. I for one will not support a society that strives to become doubleplus good.
Language is more than just what Orwell thought it is.
Language can be harmful to others and recreate structures, which harm others.
Are you finding issues where there really isn’t any?
Well then let’s just not talk about discrimination. Easy fix
Better post this on PCMR as well, I’m sure it will be well received
I will. I just thought Linux users had a higher moral standard.
Ridiculous
In my experience, if you let a hate group co-opt a term or euphemism, it emboldens them in that usage.
For example, “Oh you did the OK symbol 👌? That’s a white supremacy symbol.” No it isn’t, in most contexts it means OK and in some cultures it represents a butthole.
So by using “master race” for a trivial and humorous concept that a person’s choice of OS makes them superior to others, it belittles its xenophobic usage. A person’s race or skin colour is (or should be) just as irrelevant as OS choice when it comes to their place in society.
You have a very good argument right there, thank you for enriching this discussion!
The name is actually poking fun at both the concept of believing in the existence of a master race and the users themselves. It’s not because the creators or users of the community actually think they’re the master race of OS preference.
Calm down.
