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Today the U.S. House of Representatives passed the TAKE IT DOWN Act, giving the powerful a dangerous new route to manipulate platforms into removing lawful speech that they simply don’t like. President Trump himself has said that he would use the law to censor his critics. The bill passed the Senate in February, and it now heads to the president’s desk.
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The democrats pushed this through for the same reason they’ve pushed other bills to censor the internet, using piracy or CSAM as excuses. They aren’t really trying to protect anyone, they want and need control over the population as much as the republicans do, so that they can maintain the cash flow from corporations that own them. So many people still look at the democrats as an opposition party to the fascists, but that isn’t true at all. They work together because they’re two sides of the same party. The only thing they’re truly concerned with protecting is their own money and power.
Both the democrats and republicans are profoundly evil.
Republicans pass legislation through the two houses of Congress they entirely control, a Republican president signs it.
You: “The Democrats pushed this through.”
It passed 409-2 and the 2 no votes were Republican.
Senate was unanimous.
Ok so 2 people out of 535 in Republican-controlled Congress voted against it, how is it accurate to say “Democrats pushed it through”?
I see how you got confused, let’s try rephrasing it to “passed with unanimous democratic support”.
Maybe they should trying being the OPPOSITION PARTY for once in their miserable careers.
In what world is 2 votes against 400 making any noise? That is 0.5%, democrats surely make up far more than that.
So a majority of democrats voted for this.
They pushed it through.
The house bill was sponsored by a Pennsylvania Democrat and a Florida Republican.
Amy Klobuchar and Ted Cruz introduced the Senate version.
It’s bipartisan and criticism is levelled at the opposition for doing bipartisanship: the chronic problematic condition the Democrats put themselves into while in the minority.
Your comment sounds pretty fucking stupid considering every single democrats who voted, voted yes. Now get that boot out of your mouth, you’re embarrassing yourself.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/119-2025/h104
Two republicans voted no. Every Dem who voted, voted yes.
We may not be able to say they stopped it, but I think it’s reasonable to want them to try to.
Wait, US Congress still exists? Certainly wouldn’t know it based on how the nation has been governed for the past 4 months.
They exist for the important work of censoring critics.
This reminds me of the DNC super donor Ed Buck who would lure in gay black men and kill them by injecting meth into them while raping them.
He managed to do it for years and wasn’t until one of the victims survived to be able talk about it that he was sentenced as with every previous body it was said it was a private issue and a sad loss of a friend.
Photos managed to get shared of his racist, rape, death den helping sway the public.Ed Buck would have loved this bill and its ability to actively scrub his image further.
If it feels like monsters would like something I don’t want it.Why the fuck did all the democrats vote Yes for this
Because the mainstream democrats (the corpocentrists, mostly) believe that the tools of fascism and oppression are perfectly fine to keep around as long as they’re wielded by enlightened leadership. All you have to do is simply never lose an election ever. Nbd. Why do they want to keep the tools of fascism around? Uh… (Hurriedly stuffing cash in pockets) Safety, terrorists or child molesters or something, look don’t worry about it.
Because they’d like to use it too.
I think because the sentiment of the bill is good.
The problem is on the required action and the broad definition of what a “covered platform” is.
I’m so done with them. Primary all of them.
Fascism is an integration of government and corporations. Democrats are officially just the other side of the coin after this. 100% one party in the country. The longer any politician fights under the banner of Republican or Democrat the longer they want this system to continue.
So just assume they voted yes since only 2 republicans voted against including the Democrats
I’d like to know why those 2 Republicans voted “no” when every Democrat voted “yes”.
My guess is they never read any of it, but heard the Democrats were voting “yes” so they voted “no” purely for opposition.
There’s different factions in the republicans just like there are different factions in the democrats (though I’d argue that the democrats are somewhat more of a monolith and seem to really actively hate deviation from the party line). At a blind guess, I’d wager that Rand Paul voted no, since he’s one of the more libertarian leaning legislators. Though, I’d be unsurprised if he voted yes. For every good take, Rand has a dozen real stinkers, but much like a broken clock, he does get it right once in a while and isn’t afraid to break from the party on stuff.
Remember, America, it’s through your inaction that these changes are possible. Really, they should be thanking you for standing aside and letting them remodel the whole government.
I’m fighting back in the ways I can.
Namely by reducing my contribution to the eternal consumption engine while convincing others to do the same so our rulers have fewer resources to use against us.
I want off this ride
The ride don’t stop until you make it stop.
Call it what it is: a censorship law. Apparently the climate of fear that makes people self-censor wasn’t enough.
Watch for a LOT of ‘extreme left’ opinions get taken down and their authors imprisoned.
AIPAC is driving this. Thats why they got the voting numbers that they did.
And darlen AOC so called progressive voted for this shit.
As did Bernie.
Bernie is in the Senate not the House of Representatives where AOC serves. How did Bernie vote for this?
The Senate voted for it unanimously in February.
Politicians are still too afraid of optics, they don’t want to be on record as voting against taking down revenge porn. Too many of these bills are written with a good-sounding premise but the details are where they get you.
Yet they are happy to hand the criminal who is actively shooting people another loaded weapon because “optics”.
They are the kind of people that say you should stay with a partner that rapes and abuses you because it might make family gatherings weird if you complain.
Fuck those people.Optics are people’s reality. Everyone lives in their own.
It won’t stop with journalists and authors. They’ll be looking in Facebook posts, Reddit comments, Twitter threads, Instagram, etc. And random citizens are going to start disappearing.
They’ll want people to know it can happen to anyone, not just the most visible or high profile critics.Any chance courts can stop this bill for being unconstitutional.
The NSA mass surveillance program that Snowden blew the whistle on was found unconstitutional during Obama II. THAT SAME AFTERNOON, the Republican Congress and Senate passed the (I shit you not, this is what this MF is named) USA FREEDOM ACT that basically re-instantiated the program and Obama signed it straightaway. Turns out, they were able to get shit done quick and in a hurry when the shit was fascism.
Can, probably yes, will, probably no
Anyone else hear thunderous applause?
OK so this is meant for revenge porn / stolen photos… but it’s written so broadly that it will affect basically any online speech. Great.
100% it was meant for the latter not the former
Senate:
Unanimous Support
House:
207 Republicans and 202 Democrats voted Yea
2 Republicans voted No, 0 Democrats
11 from both parties abstained
WTF happened to resisting Trump’s fascist agenda? This is blatant controlled opposition
Trump’s fascist agenda was always their agenda as well. They just weren’t quite as openly racist about it. Democrats have oppressed minorities as much as republicans have, and it wasn’t Trump that was sending riot police to crush peaceful sit-in student protests against genocide. That was a democrat, and was only the latest in a long line of truly horrible things the democrats have done in the name of fascism.
Trump himself told the whole nation in his address that he plans to abuse it.
it passed. it fucking passed. i don’t think people realize what they’re about to use this for (or at least they don’t fully realize the implications).
And a helluva a lot of Dems voted for it like lemmings…
They all did along with all but two Republicans. Funny how they have no problem working together on stuff like this, but when it comes to anything that helps the American people suddenly there’s a ton of manufactured controversy as if we were watching a scripted pro wrestling match.
This is what I’ve been saying and why I don’t vote for either of these parties.
Another step closer to achieving his Nazi wet dream.
rumor has it that AOC voted for this
She’s part of the problem.
We like to believe she isn’t, but she’s a proud consumer just like the rest of them.
She will never fight back against the culture of consumption until it becomes cool to do so.
I can eat for literal days, having several pounds of meat, for $15. Meanwhile she feels justified in defending spending $15 on avocado toast and her useful idiots support her because they’re part of the problem, too.
All democrats become conservatives when their consumerism is threatened.
Kompromat
Not a rumor, only 2 house members voted against (both republican).
mfw we can pass a bipartisan spy law no problem but a bipartisan daylight savings law is still too hard.
To be fair, DST is a more complicated issue. Everyone wants to end it, but there’s disagreement on how to do it.
One side wants to not be missing an hour of sleep half the year and wants to go to standard time only.
The other side is psychopaths. We had a Spring Forward. I’m owed a Fall Back. If they try to take that away from me, I’ll take up arms.
They all did, it was 409 vs 2, with 22 not voting:
https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2025/roll104.xml
And ironically the only two Nays came from Republicans.
censorship is bipartisan, they just want to censor different things
She did. She ‘objected to some of the wording’ but jumped in line like a good little puppet.
Her and Bernie won’t acknowledge palestinian defenders in their rallies. Puppets to the bone like all the others, just another form of controlled opposition.
While this is bullshit, we should be able to weaponize it right back at them - any lies the administration spews (which let’s face it, that’s everything) needs to be reported relentlessly.
Make them feel it!
Reported to who? The people telling the lies?
The article mentioned requiring a reporting mechanism which must be resolved within 48 hours. Because of the impracticality of the timeframe it went on to assume that anything reported would just be removed.
Yeah that will only be true for the rich and powerful. Ever go to the police as a poor for stalking?
The same way that Facebook can say “no” when you ask them to stop training AI on your data they will just send it to an automated not that will find no issue and deny the takedown but for those that pay I’m sure it will be very effective.
gulf of america?
“Flood the zone” benefits both parties when it comes to power grab shit like this. This barely made headlines until it was already passed and it’s too late.
Good news, now we can report all those christians online that won’t shut the fuck up!!
I wonder how fast left leaning youtubers will go down.
