I remember not long ago showing my linux desktop on reddit and everybody was going crazy because I was still using Firefox and Chrome is the browser to use nowdays and all that crap, I guess times have changed for the better, and yes I still use firefox
I started to use firefox back in 2007.
I have never changed back. If someday there’s a better alternative I’d switch. But sure thing that chromium based browsers are not an alternative.
I have 32gb of ram.
I literally only upgraded so I could install more mods in minecraft and cities skylines 1.
Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I had 32G of RAM I could hook that up, cause apps dig a dude with memory.
Well, not all apps.
Well the kind of apps that’d let me watch two chicks at the same time do.
Good point.
I’d be wondering where the hell my other 64GB went!
Chrome is such a pile of of shit.
I have only 16 gb of RAM but I can open 20 tabs on Firefox!
I have 32GB and for most of what I do, which is normal desktop stuff and gaming, and occasionally messing with VMs, it’s fine if not overkill.
I once had a machine with 4mb of ram. Was fine for Word 5.5 and Windows 3.1. Needed a boot disk to run Doom. Upgraded to 8mb and it was fine, if not overkill.
Son, have you tried just pulling your computer up by its boot straps and telling it that it only needs 8mb of ram because that was fine 35 years ago? /s
took me a few days but I fully switched to firefox. my computer finally runs the way it should.
It gets even better when you add:
And
Tab Stash lets me stash a big ridiculous research or shopping session I’d want to return to, under a nice collection label for later.
And Auto Tab Discard will essentially unload open tabs you haven’t touched in a while, so they’ll load from scratch when you “wake them up”, but they’re not hogging all your RAM. It’s fantastic.
I was really hesitant to switch to Firefox. It took a long time for me to finally leave the Mozilla suite and accept that Firefox was the one going forward.
Ecosia is another option but it is also Chromium based
Yeah we should stop using Chromium based browsers, because they favour Google indirectly.
My washing machine uses Firefox as well
i’m an angry non orgasmic bottom
I “cheaped out” with 32 and regretted it, working with huge files in RAM.
I’ve recently really gotten into 3d printing, and I’ve bought the bullet and purchased a pretty nice 3D scanner (Crealty Raptor Pro).
There’s no such thing as
too muchenough RAM for these scans.getting into 3d art is a regret lowkey, I was fine with my specs before they felt op even
I was into vr too, I was like damn this laptops a beast now im constantly struggling
128 here and I capped it the other day doing an in-memory parsing, lol
Such a big fan of Google ???😳😳😳😳😳
compile my own custom android
Ditch Google trash. Go for alternatives. E.g., Firefox instead of Chrome.
Firefox isn’t going to solve the issue of overly bloated websites.
It still has ManifestV2 and useful ad-blocking
can help
That seems like a fake website. Here is the real link: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock
That’s not a fake website 🤦♂️
This website is maintained by Uros Gazvoda, founder of Futuristica, to help spread uBlock Origin - free, open-source ad blocker.
Not fake, just unaffiliated. The presented links and info seem correct to me.
ubo is also warning about a different fake page on their repo but not this one.
May as well chop the “s” off “alternatives”
“Two Firefox tabs at the same time, man”
That why I have 128gb of ram — productivity. I even can open tab with youtube and oom won’t kill my family.
Are you sure that Firefox is a good alternative, given all the things they’ve been doing lately? And why not fork, by the way?
Also, Google is funding Mozilla, so… yeah.
Because it’s still better than Chrome? They still support ManifestV2 which is necessary for AdBlockers like uBlock to work properly
Fair enough
Every other browser uses chrome and just puts their stuff on top. So you either use actual Google chrome, a rebrand (I know it’s not exactly that nor that simple), or you use Firefox.
Yeah, you’re right. This is a choice without a choice, basically.
theres always librewolf
LibreWolf is great
Hence the joke 🤣
Why is that in my personal laptop chrome works like shit and in my work laptop it works wonders?! The only difference between them is that in y professional laptop we have thousands of different security apps. It’s almost like chrome is shit because it invades u your computer like a virus lol
Linux and FreeBSD systems? Happy and snappy.
Work Windows system filled with crap corp security software? Open electron apps and wait for them to load.
Personal Windows system? Master of Orion, the remake.
I do wonder how many people only hate windows because their IT installed crapware that takes half the CPU scanning every file move.
I watched a fascinating rust video where this guy was talking about all of the things different OSs do differently just in the rust up install process. And how one of them (I assume windows but don’t recall) was way worse but it was fixed by changing how they did IO. I don’t work at that lower level so it’s not a thing for me, but it was interesting. (I tried to find but failed)
The file system Windows uses (NTFS) has a lot of neat features, but ends up being astronomically slow in unexpected ways for some file operations as a result.
I remember playing around with NTFS streams. They’re usually used to store random metadata about a file. The size of which doesn’t appear in the normal file size calculation/display in Windows. So you can have this 2kb text file that has an alternate stream with a zip file of the entire discography of a band stuffed into it. Longest file transfer of 2kb ever. Another gotcha, the second you copy that file to a file system that doesn’t support the alternate streams they just vanish. So all the sudden that long file transfer is super quick.
See, so I’ve never seen the purpose of NTFS streams. In a cyber security course, I was warned to look out for Alternate Data Streams, but got an unsatisfactory answer when I prodded the instructor for more (it was apparent that didn’t have anything beyond a surface level understanding of them).
Your link was informative in grasping what they are, but I still don’t think I’m clear on how they’re used in the “real world”. Like, what (and how) would one use them for a legitimate purpose?
It’s been a few years since I last looked at them but I believe one of the most notable uses was the icon. If you had a custom icon for an application or the thumbnail image for a photo.
what do you need 32gb for in a linux box?
Gaming, 3D Modelling, Drawing, …
32gb of ram
Yes, absolutely. Not even joking. Do you know how much RAM Blender can munch on a high res model?
Chrome. Or Firefox. They don’t use less ram on Linux. I can easily get Firefox to 10G.
ZFS and disk cache.
I love it for disk cache as I can then get slow drives. After the prefetch during boot (once every few months), things are just smooth.
either using it to serve a small network or the old video games
32gb of ram
yes, that was the amount I was responding to
I see. Thanks for your response.
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My mid-range gaming PC from 2019 had 16gb, and I was looking at some new pre-builts and saw many still only have 16. Is there just not much need for more, or what? It’s cheap - I might double what I’ve got in DDR4 for $50.
If you’re doing a new PC then I’d aim for 32GB.
16GB is enough, yes, but for how much longer? It’s been the norm for awhile now, which means that soon it won’t be enough.
I would say, that 16gb is barely enough, if you planning gaming. UE5 games can easily fill up that, so if you wanna have game recording or browser in background, then above 16 is mandatory. Maybe at least 24gb.
sort of what I was thinking. I only hit the limit when I have way too many tabs open while playing an intensive game, but it’s a cheap upgrade that might keep me in this PC for a few more years.
I have 32gb and I always suggest others to get that much as a baseline theses days. I rarely ever use anywhere close to the full 32gb, but I am often times at or near 16gb in use. The main benefit of having 32gb is in my case I’ll basically never be hitting the pagefile, but if you only had 16gb you’ll probably rarely max out on ram usage, but you’ll probably be hitting the pagefile more often.
With the proliferation of fast SSDs and NVME drives hitting the pagefile is considerably less impactful than it use to be with spinning disks, but it’s still slower than RAM.
For gaming it is unlikely you will need more than 16, at least not any time soon.
Depends on the game and what you’re doing with it. Cities: Skylines with a bunch of mods really struggles without a load of RAM. Playing Vintage Story recently, I installed a bunch of mods. Had to uninstall about half to come in under 32GB utilization.
Beam.ng drive with 79 mods can use up to 20 to 28gb RAM. Even at 30 to 40 mods it’ll pull 10 to 17gb RAM. A few programs open and a browser can eat 10 to 16gb. 16gb is the new standard. 32 should be the baseline though. 64 plus is overkill right now.
I have a VR headset. Going from 16GB to 64GB was a huge difference in most games
I’ve just added 64GB to the 16 that were fitted, because beam.ng would crash loading Utah with mods. This was less time consuming than finding the probably misbehaving mod or other root cause. Mainboard is from an old Thinkstation so that RDIMMs only set me back 40EUR. Nice experience.
Mahalo, friend.
I upgraded from 16 to 64 a few months ago, and kinda regret not going for 96 instead. Hoping these 64 last around a decade like the 16GB did previously
16GB is perfectly enough currently and I expect it to stay so for the next 5+ years.
I would say 16 GB is the bare minimum. Oblivion for example needs about 10 GB, If you have discord, your Browser, and 1-2 other programs running in the background simultaneously, you will easily reach your limit.
And that’s probably still relying HEAVILY on a pagefile.
With 16 GB ram I can perfectly virtualize W11 giving 8 GB ram to the guest (on a Linux host), so yes, for normal use 16 GB is perfectly fine.
Not really. 16 gigs is like the base amount of VRAM on the new 5xxx series nvidia GPU’s, and you probably want more RAM than VRAM in your rig…
Cool, danke.
False.
16gb is maybe enough for a phone these days.
32gb is the bare minimum baseline, and if you want to game AND use a browser you should be seriously moving to 64gb
And if you’re a power user of ANY kind, go straight to 128.
The only people who need 128 or more do not need to ask.
So, if you only browse the web with a few other programs, and you have less than 20 tabs in a browser, 32gb.
If you go over 20 tabs and want to game at the same time, just go to 64gb.
