Hopefully now we can all be on the same page that Hamas and the IDF are both bad guys, and they both hurt the Palestinian people. Hamas less so, but as this story illustrates, they are no friend to Palestinians.
This fits with a report from the beginning of the war that said Hamas had stockpiles of food, water, and medicine that they were keeping just for themselves while Israel tried to starve the Palestinians to death.
I downvoted your comment, I don’t think what you’re saying about both being bad is wrong, but I dislike your general premise like people would be siding with or defending Hamas‘ actions here at a large scale.
They do, though. The majority of people on Lemmy seems to be convinced that the Hamas are freedom fighters against an oppressive colonial state and that it’s good that they fight to free Palestine. Many people here chant “Free Palestine” without further thought. That goes far beyond demanding Israel shall stop war crimes.
Look, I think it’s perfectly legit to chant Free Palestine, from the river to the sea, whatever. I also believe Israel is an ethnonationalist settler colony upholding a regime of apartheid and oppression, now conducting a genocide.
But I also know Hamas from my friends from Gaza and they weren’t particularly liked ever. They are corrupt and have been stealing money & supplies for their own cause while people are living in poverty. There’s no freedom under Hamas. It’s very likely that they killed children & civilians on Oct 7. They suck.
But with what’s happening now inside Gaza, if they’re there or not it doesn’t matter. People would be slaughtered anyway. That’s why I can understand the sentiment that whoever is fighting against the IOF atm is a “freedom fighter“, even though I think it’s short sighted and tbh I still don’t see that the majority of lemmy users would be Hamas supporters.
Hopefully now we can all be on the same page that Hamas and the IDF are both bad guys, and they both hurt the Palestinian people. Hamas less so, but as this story illustrates, they are no friend to Palestinians.
This fits with a report from the beginning of the war that said Hamas had stockpiles of food, water, and medicine that they were keeping just for themselves while Israel tried to starve the Palestinians to death.
I downvoted your comment, I don’t think what you’re saying about both being bad is wrong, but I dislike your general premise like people would be siding with or defending Hamas‘ actions here at a large scale.
They do, though. The majority of people on Lemmy seems to be convinced that the Hamas are freedom fighters against an oppressive colonial state and that it’s good that they fight to free Palestine. Many people here chant “Free Palestine” without further thought. That goes far beyond demanding Israel shall stop war crimes.
Look, I think it’s perfectly legit to chant Free Palestine, from the river to the sea, whatever. I also believe Israel is an ethnonationalist settler colony upholding a regime of apartheid and oppression, now conducting a genocide.
But I also know Hamas from my friends from Gaza and they weren’t particularly liked ever. They are corrupt and have been stealing money & supplies for their own cause while people are living in poverty. There’s no freedom under Hamas. It’s very likely that they killed children & civilians on Oct 7. They suck.
But with what’s happening now inside Gaza, if they’re there or not it doesn’t matter. People would be slaughtered anyway. That’s why I can understand the sentiment that whoever is fighting against the IOF atm is a “freedom fighter“, even though I think it’s short sighted and tbh I still don’t see that the majority of lemmy users would be Hamas supporters.