NRA been quiet right

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    1 day ago

    Literally everyone I know who is in favor of 2A is against this. They’re “being real quiet” because you don’t interact with them and have no line of communication with them outside of Twitter trolls

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      We shouldnt have to talk to those nutters. They had one job: be good at guns for shooting tyranny. We let this dumb hobby of of theirs lead to killing hundreds and hundreds of children. For their hobby. Now it’s time for them to put up or shut up and defeat tyranny. If they won’t do it now they will never do it, so why are we letting their dumbass larping hobby kill kids?

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        Why would you expect someone to put their life on the line for you when you spout off about them all being lunatics? They’re at home with their family ready to protect their own home from tyranny as it comes to their own front door. They’re not assembling an army to take care of you too. You hate them, so defend yourself if you want to.

        Besides, my entire point is about how fucking stupid it is to be all like “I’m not hearing anything from those people I never talk to, curious isn’t it?” I literally do not care in the slightest about a might-as-well-be-copypasted rant I’ve heard 10000 times from people who might as well be the exact same person as you.

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    I live in the rural area of one of the most red states.

    I am also as far left as someone can be before the horseshoe turns into authoritarianism again.

    The left is armed. We just have the decades of experience necessary to know that you don’t advertise your capabilities. Especially in an open forum like the fucking internet.

  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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    So we should start calling ICE to report fashy gun owners are harboring illegal aliens, yes?

    Maybe even illegal aliens with blogs that are critical of fascism.

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          The sad part is for this to work they have to seem nice and that’s mostly incompatible. Like imagine if you reported that Oprah was harboring illegal immigrants. Hire them, sure, but harbor them? Oprah has done more for the alt right than most, so it’s just a laughable idea. Gates? Nah. Zuckerbot? Double nah, he doesn’t even want wealthy people near him. I bet he makes millionaires clean his pool. It’s hard to find a believable subject at all, and if you do you wouldn’t want to use it :(

          • ɔiƚoxɘup@infosec.pub
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            I wasn’t clear.

            • they knock down the wrong door
            • they shoot the occupants in a firefight
            • the far right militias turn on trump…
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    Who would’ve guessed that people overly obsessed with firearms and very vocal about their obsession had small dicks.

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    They’re 100% OK about right wing autocracy and white supremacy. That’s been their thing the whole time.

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        Tyranny is when the government doesn’t recognize my right as the divine head of my family and king of my castle - not allowing me to expose others to infectious disease, forcing me to ensure that my children learn how to read and count, stopping me from buying a gun after beating my wife, and denying me the ability to purchase something that has been marketed specifically to my Oppositional Defiance Disorder (ivermectin, raw milk, probably fucking asbestos eventually); while having the gall to allow black people to vote and gay people to get married.

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    So if you shoot someone acting on a no knock warrant, are you in the wrong? What if you live in a state with a castle law?

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      Just know that with the first shot, they are going to unload every round of ammo they have until every living thing in that house is dead.

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        If they have a badge and I get away with it, yeah. Especially an ICE badge. Traffic cops have done some good. But I can’t remember hearing any story about ICE that was about them doing anything positive, ever.

        Watch the life drain from their dead eyes and know some good was done as I have purified the evil trained into their husk like a cancer.

        Everybody wins.

        But shooting people in general? Nah. Personally speaking, anyway. I don’t even have a gun myself.

        I feel the opposite goes for conservatives. They’ll shoot anyone they can argue they felt threatened by. But they’ll lick ICE boots on request.

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      Depends on the state. But if you shoot a cop, regardless of how justified, your next 10 years, should you see them, are going to suck. And the following 10 are iffy.

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        I have lots of cameras. Some hidden. I have all kinds of evidence. Best things be done according to the law on my premises. The Constitutional law, not the flippant ravings done on a whim just to test the actual laws put in place for 200 years.

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    They’re fine with tyranny as long as they see it as “their” tyranny. And they’ll still be blaming the gays and the immigrants when they themselves are dragged off to the gulag.

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    Armed minorities are harder to oppress.

    Organized armed minorities make governments afraid.

    Get organized, train.

    It’s that or lie down and take it.

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      I told Americans for weeks now to go meet minorities in their communities, offer to help them organize and arm. Then help them resist.

      They’ll fight you about it.

      I’ve been called every name you can imagine. Told they would all be killed in the streets (very possible I admit but not the point), I was reported a lot and given bans for inciting violence. Many of those posts have subsequently been deleted. I was attacked so much I shut my original account and use two new accounts so I don’t unintentionally dox myself.

      Now it’s pretty common to see these comments.

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    Well … The 2nd ammendment friendly liberals are smart enough not to post “come get sum ya dirty Nazi asshats” or say how they might be looking forward to defending their home against armed trespassers (ICE without a warrant). That stuff leads to trouble, or might look bad in court.

    People know this is bad. History shows this only ends in violence. There is no way to vote our way out of this, these people either get overthrown/arrested, or they get taken out by other nations world war style.

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      i don’t think it’s likely that other nations will take out trump through a world war, as happened with hitler in WW2.

      this is largely because i believe that other countries entered WW2 to stop hitler because they were getting attacked, or feared they were about to be attacked next. if trump doesn’t outright attack other countries, i see little reason for other countries to use military force to stop the US or trump.

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        For sure, but the rhetoric for annexing other nations has been ramping up, from Canada to Greenland

        So I don’t know about it not happening. I see a very real possibility of WW3. Or an American Civil War at least. While also horrific, for the sake of the world I hope it ends up being “just” a civil war

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        Are we talking about the same Trump? Orange guy? Current president? The guy constantly yelling about annexing other countries and making them a 51st state?

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    My 00 buckshot is allowed to enter ICE agents who don’t have a warrant.

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      Ya. I mean. They don’t have a warrant. They’re trespassing.

      The issue is law enforcement won’t serve a warrant in the blind. They do their research. They know who they’re about to take down.

      So if it’s just a migrant family trying to get by. Sure. They’ll knock the doors down guns drawn like in the tv shows.

      But it you a coked up methhead with traps all over your property in rural Georgia they’ll conveniently not have enough probable cause.

      America is a messed up country.

    • ibelieveinthehousehippo@lemmy.ca
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      I keep seeing this nonsense being parroted as though these pigs are going to burst in while you’re ready and waiting.

      Surely they won’t come in and kill you while you’re asleep, right? No, that could never happen…

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        No knock warrants are stupidly dangerous for the victim and police. Personally if the SS are knocking my door down, and I can certainly say no one else is going to do this at any time, I’m comfortable with making my own terms. My life is going to hopefully cost more than equal loss. I’d rather fight till I die then die in a hole, they can torture and rape my corpse, I’ll be done with it before then.

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        Having firearms for protection is so they’re within reach and ready…if you lock up your fire extinguisher then it’s pretty fucking useless if you have a fire.

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          I get your point, but let’s be serious. That point is about being responsible. How often do fire extinguishers get kids killed?

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            The question is how often are they not used and kids die in fires?

            Same question is, how often are kids killed by the police?

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              Idk but i don’t think fires are all that common, and we have plenty of other mechanisms to prevent fires from even happening.

              OTOH, guns being stored incorrectly is for sure far higher than any fire death you are trying to make equivalent.

              I am not strawmanning you here, but i am calling you out for being disingenuous. Like I said:

              I get your point, but let’s be serious. That point is about being responsible.

              Please don’t do backflips to justify irresponsible gun owners. That is disgusting.

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                The strawman is that you assume children would ever be in their home. If the guns are behind locked doors away from children, they’re secured.

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                  The strawman is that you assume children would ever be in their home.

                  Why would that be a wrong assumption? I am not sure what you are getting at here.