I wish someone would make a tiling desktop environment instead of only a window manager to make them easy to use for all without tweaking because they are the future of the DEs.
The newest KDE Plasma versions have tiling buiilt in. But you can also install Kwin plugin called Krohnkite, which is really neat.
KDE has pretty good tiling functionality these days, not much need in using another WM unless you have a very specific workflow in mind
I once saw a video which showed off the built-in Plasma tiling feature and complained that it could not have been developed by a tiling WM user, since it was very inflexible and mouse focused. He could not use it with a keyboard, which kind of defeats the purpose of tiling in the first place.
He could not use it with a keyboard, which kind of defeats the purpose of tiling in the first place.
I wouldn’t say it defeats the purpose of tiling in general - it’s a very nice addition for many of us, but I can see how it lacks utility for hardcore tiling wm users. Perhaps it could be improved if someone have time and skill to step in.
No, “defeating the purpose” definetly is hyperbole. ;)
But if you’ve used tiling before and do a lot of text editing (like developers do) and use the terminal a lot, not being able to use the keyboard for tiling WMs just feels worse than using a stacking WM in the first place, since you feel so held back by the mouse.
You can do this yourself very easily. I use xfce with bspwm for example, you just have to remove xfwm from the startup applications and replace it with your wm of choice.
That only works on Xorg though, doesn’t it? /g
That’s the big thing that keeps me from moving to Wayland and sway. I want a full DE and don’t want to reinvent that wheel but afaik I would have to.
So it’s i3-gnome-flashback for me for now.
That looks promising! Usually. I prefer Plasma, but the tiling options for that aren’t too great either.
The System76 people are working on tilingein their DE, though.
sway is the i3 like experience for wayland.
I know that there are tiling WMs for wayland. But I though that using a different tiling WM (like i3/sway) inside of a certain DE (like Gnome or Plasma) doesn’t work in wayland anymore, since the WM/DE distinction doesn’t exist anymore.
You can use qtile with gnome